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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Wed May 07, 2008 1:19 am

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Mow Crij will have its own subforum and its own group and its admins will be able to invite and remove any members and also delete any posts they feel dont belong in their forum.


WOOT!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Wed May 07, 2008 12:20 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Mow Crij will have its own subforum and its own group and its admins will be able to invite and remove any members and also delete any posts they feel dont belong in their forum.


Thanks a lot man. That'll really help.

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Grate idea kenzu.


Actually, it was Shabazz' and my idea. But thanks to Kenzu for accepting.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Wed May 14, 2008 10:17 am

so I can't join right?
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Wed May 14, 2008 3:48 pm

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so I can't join right?


Once we get our forum, i'll make sure we discuss it and vote; that's the best i can do for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Wed May 14, 2008 7:49 pm

I thought he said open admissions. Aynway, I already have the mow crij avy and sig.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Sat May 17, 2008 10:25 pm

Still haven't gotten a sig yet...
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Sun May 18, 2008 3:42 pm

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Still haven't gotten a sig yet...


Hmm, maybe that has something to do with the fact that our sig holder and producer, Shabazz, has recently been detained, haha (i sent him a cake with a file in it, he should be out soon). Send him a PM about it and he'll get it to you when he gets back. It's weird though, he tried to send it twice, as far as i recall. I wonder what's up?
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Mon May 19, 2008 4:26 pm

ya know there is a way people can jack it without me sending it but i guess it is a photoshopping thing...

i'll resend it

Mow crij will no longer have open application

the current members will democratically decide on members from now on
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri May 23, 2008 6:32 am

Do I have to reapply or am I in already.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri May 23, 2008 11:57 am

^^ You're fine. We're just waiting on our forum now.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Sat May 24, 2008 7:20 pm

we're waiting for pigs to fly
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:33 pm

Anarchist.Dagger wrote:

-Male Chauvinism

What about feminism/female chauvinism?
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:41 pm

"gender oppression"

don't be a shit disturber
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:42 pm

Shabazz Freeman wrote:
"gender oppression"

If so, than why does it's mentionned two times?
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:17 pm

because you're a stalinist (who had many male chauvinist attitudes and is responsible for much of the pullback of women's rights in the USSR) that doesn't realize that male chauvinism is a much more urgent problem than this "female chauvinism" as you want to bring up.

Name an nation in which MEN are oppressed?
You can't because women's oppression is an inherent part of capitalism.

Yes we will reject the feminist view point but to equate that to the male chauvinism that permeates into every part of society is ridiculous.

The oppression of women is unique because it does extend beyond classes. From the beginning of society based on private property, women have been oppressed, treated as chattel("beasts of burden"), sex slaves to be purchased, restrained from entering the workplace and joining the proletariat, forced and subjected to the confines of the house playing the "housewife" role of the family, forced to choose between providing for oneself independently and free of reliance on a man's income, not to mention the sinister male chauvinist ideology and sexist practices of discrimination. Explain how that is equal to a very small group of feminists that distrust men and believe them to be responsible for sexism. However inaccurate this is the two are not equal. We would fight against such feminist attitudes but to claim that the two situations are equal is a slap in the face to women.

We are against gender oppression but defeating male chauvinism NOW is of the upmost importance. We will worry about this nightmarish vision of women oppressing you wish to treat as reality when it happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:29 pm

hOL d on did you just say you riject the feminist viewpoint? whats wrong with feminism?
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:35 pm

the whole

all men are oppressive, women are the only ones fit to lead

it's like black nationalism

all whites are racist so create a black nation to separate

extremes atleast...
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:37 pm

wel the extreme feminists maybe but i dont know any like that. most just think that the current society is opresive agenst women and that women shuld be equal. im a feminist!
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:49 pm

Watermelon wrote:
wel the extreme feminists maybe but i dont know any like that. most just think that the current society is opresive agenst women and that women shuld be equal. im a feminist!


What program do feminists have for change? exactly. It always ends up being the whole, "Men objectify women!" crap. What should all men just cut their junk off and stop being attracted to women? Granted i know there are pigs that use derogatory names for women and treat them like shit, but focusing time and energy on the "objectification" of women rather than the material roots of male chauvinist attitudes like the family, the institutions of power, lack free and quality childcare, etc which can only be properly changed through socialist revolution. Not movies, books, and stories that demonstrate the strength of women. The politics of the feminists is largely one of the vilification of men and a campaign against IDEAS rather than the actual root of women's oppression.

Much like the pseudo black nationalists that believe getting blacks in corporations, political office, presidential office, etc. will destroy racism. They both launch into an idealist attack on ideas rather than the material root.

The view point i am explaining is that of the dialectical materialists (also known as historical materialism) which is counterpoised to all forms of idealism. We seek to break the feminists and black nationalists from their idealist campaign that will ultimately fail and win them over to the dialectical materialists view, i.e. a marxist view so that they can truly fight for women's liberation.
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PostSubject: Re: Mow Crij - Open for business   Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:52 pm

dud. feminism is just belief that women are opresed and should be liberated. there are feminist marxists. feminism is good if incorporated into marxism.

plus diamat and histomat are not teh same.
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