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Diogritor
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|  Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES  Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:19 am | |
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:34 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | I try |
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inkus2000
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| | Subject: Fascism Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:40 am | |
| On fascism:
I dont agree with it:
However it is often argued that communism/socialism are evil based on the actions of Stalin and Pol Pot. Perhaps it is unfair to judge Fascism on the actions of Hitler, under Benito Mussolini the system was far less barbaric than lets say, 'socialism under Pol Pot'. |
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:14 am | |
| Mussolini just invaided Etheopia..
Fascism =/= Nazism
Fascism is the ultimate form of State Capitalism, A step above Socialism and arguably closer to Communism.((Let me explain this dont jump at me just yet forsaying this.)) I say this because even though the belife is different the end result is the same. You have a Dictator who decides what the economy is like... Mabye this is closer to Stalinism but again in the end it just results in State Capitalism, Which is what the world needs as we have seen what private companies have done to gasoline, milk, housing, etc prices.
Nazism in its form of Economy is the same but is fundamentaly different in that you can argue that Nazism is a cult. Nazi's belive fully in the propoganda Hitler used.((I.E the master race, The world will be ours, and the world is hollow...look that one up lulz.)) |
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inkus2000
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| | Subject: reply Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:37 am | |
| Actually Fascism is Italian 'Fascio', it is not German or Nazi.
It existed prior to the Nazis.
You should not confuse Nazi idiology which includes Fascism with Fascism itself. |
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:42 am | |
| | I am not. They are technically the same but differ in the fact that Nazism can also be concidered a religion..those nazi's were creapy.. look it up dude.. they thought the world was hallow and UFO's would save them from defeat.. |
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oligarch
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:47 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | I am not. They are technically the same but differ in the fact that Nazism can also be concidered a religion..those nazi's were creapy.. look it up dude.. they thought the world was hallow and UFO's would save them from defeat.. |
The Indian nazis claim the Rig Vedas contain instructions to build V2 rockets. I also hear that at some point they decided the all the retarded people they had imprisoned knew how to win the war for some reason.
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:50 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | Mussolini just invaided Etheopia..
Nazism in its form of Economy is the same but is fundamentaly different in that you can argue that Nazism is a cult. Nazi's belive fully in the propoganda Hitler used.((I.E the master race, The world will be ours, and the world is hollow...look that one up lulz.)) |
lol I saw that vid on youtube it made me LOL a lot |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:00 pm | |
| | inkus2000 wrote: | On fascism:
I dont agree with it:
However it is often argued that communism/socialism are evil based on the actions of Stalin and Pol Pot. Perhaps it is unfair to judge Fascism on the actions of Hitler, under Benito Mussolini the system was far less barbaric than lets say, 'socialism under Pol Pot'. |
I agree that germany and italy were not good examples of fascism. But this does not mean that fascism should be tolerated.
A pillar of fascist society is government restriction on... anything they want!
No restrictions of freedom and autonomy should be tolerated. No one has authority over another human beings life. That's part of the reason i disagree with the restrictions on profanity.
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:58 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | inkus2000 wrote: | On fascism:
I dont agree with it:
However it is often argued that communism/socialism are evil based on the actions of Stalin and Pol Pot. Perhaps it is unfair to judge Fascism on the actions of Hitler, under Benito Mussolini the system was far less barbaric than lets say, 'socialism under Pol Pot'. |
I agree that germany and italy were not good examples of fascism. But this does not mean that fascism should be tolerated.
A pillar of fascist society is government restriction on... anything they want!
No restrictions of freedom and autonomy should be tolerated. No one has authority over another human beings life. That's part of the reason i disagree with the restrictions on profanity. |
Fascism itself may restrict some freedoms but only those that would threaten the state itself. Is this so bad in todays world where you have t lets say take your shoes off at an airport or "Homeland Security"? |
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Watermelon
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:10 am | |
| | Quote: | | Fascism itself may restrict some freedoms only those that would threaten the state itself |
If that's all fascism is we're living in fascism already. |
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:11 am | |
| | Pannekoek wrote: | | Quote: | | Fascism itself may restrict some freedoms only those that would threaten the state itself |
If that's all fascism is we're living in fascism already. |
if you are talking about the U.S then ding ding we have a winner. |
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Watermelon
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:25 am | |
| | I was talking about every country in the world but U.S. is a prime example. |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:49 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | if you are talking about the U.S then ding ding we have a winner. |
Sarcasm? Or do you really think the US is fascist? If you do, then i'd ask you how you believe marijuana is a threat to the state.
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:55 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | | if you are talking about the U.S then ding ding we have a winner. |
Sarcasm? Or do you really think the US is fascist? If you do, then i'd ask you how you believe marijuana is a threat to the state. |
I think anything that takes you out of your normal thinking is Dangerous to an extent. Not so much pot but you get the idea. America has been leaning torwards fascism since 9/11. Airplane checks, "Patriot act," wire taps all sound a lot like something I would do if I was trying to control keep my people safe. |
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Liche
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:57 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | | if you are talking about the U.S then ding ding we have a winner. |
Sarcasm? Or do you really think the US is fascist? If you do, then i'd ask you how you believe marijuana is a threat to the state. |
I think anything that takes you out of your normal thinking is Dangerous to an extent. Not so much pot but you get the idea. America has been leaning torwards fascism since 9/11. Airplane checks, "Patriot act," wire taps all sound a lot like something I would do if I was trying to control keep my people safe. |
haha I almost forgot how rediculous the Patriot act is. |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:05 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | I think anything that takes you out of your normal thinking is Dangerous to an extent. Not so much pot but you get the idea. America has been leaning torwards fascism since 9/11. Airplane checks, "Patriot act," wire taps all sound a lot like something I would do if I was trying to control keep my people safe. |
That wasn't the question. I want to know (since this fascist state only puts restrictions on dangers to the state) how hemp is dangerous to the state, specifically.
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:14 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | I think anything that takes you out of your normal thinking is Dangerous to an extent. Not so much pot but you get the idea. America has been leaning torwards fascism since 9/11. Airplane checks, "Patriot act," wire taps all sound a lot like something I would do if I was trying to control keep my people safe. |
That wasn't the question. I want to know (since this fascist state only puts restrictions on dangers to the state) how hemp is dangerous to the state, specifically. |
Look at the hippies during the Vietnam War. I am of a belief that the low support for our troops was whywe lost. What were the hippies doing? Smoking pot and doing coke. Guess what you do after you do drugs?
"Hey man, The Government is out to get us man. Lets go hug a tree man." |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:28 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | Look at the hippies during the Vietnam War. I am of a belief that the low support for our troops was whywe lost. What were the hippies doing? Smoking pot and doing coke. |
And? If they weren't doing drugs, you think they would've wanted to join, or even support, an illegal war? Sorry man, but i don't buy that.
| Quote: | | Guess what you do after you do drugs?"Hey man, The Government is out to get us man. Lets go hug a tree man." |
Speak for yourself. I was anti-government far before i started takin drugs. And i never felt any more inclined to hug a tree, or anything/one for that matter. It just makes me wanna eat cheetos.
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mononokifool
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| | Subject: Re: RULES AND GUIDELINES Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:33 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | | Look at the hippies during the Vietnam War. I am of a belief that the low support for our troops was whywe lost. What were the hippies doing? Smoking pot and doing coke. |
And? If they weren't doing drugs, you think they would've wanted to join, or even support, an illegal war? Sorry man, but i don't buy that.
| Quote: | | Guess what you do after you do drugs?"Hey man, The Government is out to get us man. Lets go hug a tree man." |
Speak for yourself. I was anti-government far before i started takin drugs. And i never felt any more inclined to hug a tree, or anything/one for that matter. It just makes me wanna eat cheetos. |
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you said war..............remember Johnson called it a conflict.....You can completely bi-pass congress(they have the power to declare war not the prez) if you just say it is a conflict
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