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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:00 am | |
| We can disagree on whether it is justifiable or not, but on whether it is a living being or not. I don't think so. And, if we part from the premise that it is a living human, then, abortion is murder. |
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 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:00 am | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | We can disagree on whether it is justifiable or not, but on whether it is a living being or not. I don't think so. And, if we part from the premise that it is a living human, then, abortion is murder. |
well then if it is murder, so is eating meat? what makes a fetus different than a cow or a chicken or a pig? |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts: 4426 Join date: 2008-02-14 Location: Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:37 pm | |
| | beatnikzach wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | We can disagree on whether it is justifiable or not, but on whether it is a living being or not. I don't think so. And, if we part from the premise that it is a living human, then, abortion is murder. |
well then if it is murder, so is eating meat? what makes a fetus different than a cow or a chicken or a pig? |
Never thought of that actaully, nice._________________ "In war, there are no unwounded soldiers."--Jose Narosky "A pessimist is one who makes difficulties of his opportunities; an optimist is one who makes opportunities of his difficulties." --Reginald Mansell Eazy-er Said Than Dunn   |
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Jesus World Republic Party Member

Posts: 679 Join date: 2008-09-12 Age: 16 Location: Behind you're back
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:31 pm | |
| | beatnikzach wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | We can disagree on whether it is justifiable or not, but on whether it is a living being or not. I don't think so. And, if we part from the premise that it is a living human, then, abortion is murder. |
well then if it is murder, so is eating meat? what makes a fetus different than a cow or a chicken or a pig? |
The cow, Chicken and Pig are fully developed, and do not have the potential to be qualified human or equal to human.
Btw, If Abortion is to prevent damage to the girl carrying the baby. Then, Girls should be allowed to walk around with killing devices, so that they could prevent an attack from a Pedophile or Raper. Now that would make sense, can kill him before, but not after. Oh so sweet._________________ An I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you - Ezekial 25:17  |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:42 pm | |
| | beatnikzach wrote: | well then if it is murder, so is eating meat? |
Murder, yes, homicide not. And justifiable for we're omnivores and we feed from other species' meat.
| beatnikzach wrote: | what makes a fetus different than a cow or a chicken or a pig? |
A human fetus? That it is a human in development, unlike a fully developed cow. |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4243 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:45 pm | |
| I was thinking today, whats the difference from killing a retard, and a retarded baby. |
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Jesus World Republic Party Member

Posts: 679 Join date: 2008-09-12 Age: 16 Location: Behind you're back
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:38 pm | |
| | Liche wrote: | | I was thinking today, whats the difference from killing a retard, and a retarded baby. |
Fully Developed and not fully developed. The retard still will develop himself to a certain extent._________________ An I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you - Ezekial 25:17  |
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee

Posts: 1684 Join date: 2008-04-04 Age: 21 Location: Sisyphean Hell
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:51 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Murder, yes, homicide no |
Other way around. It's legal to commit homicide on a fetus, so it wouldn't be murder.
And you can't commit murder or homicide on an animal, you just kill it.
This really has no bearing on the actual substance of the conversation, i'm just a dork like that. _________________ "A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself." --Karl Polanyi--
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council

Posts: 2623 Join date: 2008-02-05 Age: 10 Location: bite the power
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:44 am | |
| wow wow wow man i come back to here ur ex is pregnant all i can say is(not being inconsiderate) that its ur fualt she has a baby and its her choice if she wants to abort it plus i mean u have to pay alimony and u may not get visitation rights plus she has to go through the burden of carrying it and thats not right for u to just care about the baby that being said i think she is jackassy if she is getting an abortion just becuase she hates you. _________________ why do i need a sig
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts: 4426 Join date: 2008-02-14 Location: Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:43 pm | |
| She LIED about having a baby, LOL. A sad lol though, I mean what a fucking bitch, srsly. _________________ "In war, there are no unwounded soldiers."--Jose Narosky "A pessimist is one who makes difficulties of his opportunities; an optimist is one who makes opportunities of his difficulties." --Reginald Mansell Eazy-er Said Than Dunn   |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council

Posts: 2623 Join date: 2008-02-05 Age: 10 Location: bite the power
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm | |
| Hahahahahahahahaha That's awful.....good thing u broke up _________________ why do i need a sig
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:36 pm | |
| | Black_Cross wrote: | | Quote: | | Murder, yes, homicide no |
Other way around. It's legal to commit homicide on a fetus, so it wouldn't be murder.
And you can't commit murder or homicide on an animal, you just kill it. |
If we understand "homicide" as the killing of a being of our own species and murder as the act of depriving a living being from its life, then, you can murder a bug and commit homicide on a human.
| Black_Cross wrote: | This really has no bearing on the actual substance of the conversation, i'm just a dork like that. |
As demonstrated above, two can play this game. Me while engaging in thread necromancy. |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4243 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:25 pm | |
| homicide homi from hominid refers to some one from the same group. Homo Sapien, etc etc etc. If a dog kills a dog its homicide. If a dog calls a man its murder. And apparently god dosent mind if you kill, so long as its a random spur of the moment thing. |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts: 4426 Join date: 2008-02-14 Location: Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:17 am | |
| | Liche wrote: | And apparently god dosent mind if you kill, so long as its a random spur of the moment thing. |
How you mean?
And what's the diffrence between murder and homocide, homocide is when your killing your own "sort" or whatever and murder if you kill something else, like a whale?_________________ "In war, there are no unwounded soldiers."--Jose Narosky "A pessimist is one who makes difficulties of his opportunities; an optimist is one who makes opportunities of his difficulties." --Reginald Mansell Eazy-er Said Than Dunn   |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4243 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:47 am | |
| no you can murder your own species. Murder is just taking a life in general. Homicide is taking the life of some one in your own species. These are just the technical terms, they have evolved to their own meaning though over time, like names. For instance my name is David, which the old and original meaning is Beloved. (yes I am beloved  ) But my name means more than that, and its not the sole thing that defines who I am. |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: this is not right i dont care who you are Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:15 am | |
| | Liche wrote: | homicide homi from hominid refers to some one from the same group. Homo Sapien, etc etc etc. If a dog kills a dog its homicide. If a dog calls a man its murder. |
From "homo" which means "the same". |
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