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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 05, 2009 9:46 pm

Yes. Generally (expecially in the times of Stalin) the idea was to eventually get rid of the government, where as he saw Socialism as only DP (Dictatorship of the Proletariet). But I guess, if you severely twist the terms of Socialism you can call him a Socialist.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 05, 2009 10:40 pm

have a great time
stalin was okay, but i dont appreciate the purges Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 05, 2009 10:52 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Mon May 11, 2009 11:09 pm

VLADIMIR wrote:
From what I've heard and read about the CCCP's socialism I have liked.
I'm also a fan of Joseph Stalin.


You should know that Stalin was a big anti-communist.

He was an opportunist, not a real communist.

Do you know that Stalin was originally from Georgia and was studying to become a priest? He took part in the Russian revolution, after the revolution he forged plans to take out fellow revolutionaries and killed them. Even though he was a priest before, he turned against priests and prosecuted them. Later he even turned against communists who saw that he was killing innocent people or sent them to labor camps to work as slaves. After Stalin's death, the new soviet leader showed what Stalin has done during his reign, no one knew what horrible things he has done before.

Stalin is the reason why Communism is perceived in a very negative light in USA and its allied countries.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Mon May 11, 2009 11:34 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Stalin is the reason why Communism is perceived in a very negative light in USA and its allied countries.


And Mao, and Kim what's-his-name in North Korea, and Fidel Castro, and...

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 12:11 am

Kim Jong Ill. Or Il. WHatever.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 12:11 am

fidel castro isnt the worst
you cant hate a guy with a kickass beard

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 12:23 am

enviro wrote:
fidel castro isnt the worst
you cant hate a guy with a kickass beard


He's still a valid example.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 3:12 am

he may be a valid example
BUT HE HAS A KICKASS BEARD

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 3:44 am

enviro wrote:
he may be a valid example
BUT HE HAS A KICKASS BEARD

I for one agree with Enviros logic.

Charisma is a key stat.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 2:02 pm

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Charisma is a key stat.


Indeed! It can get you more votes, like Obama and shit, but it also leads to populist(populism) speakers who get there vtoes from especially charisma.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 8:54 pm

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Liche wrote:

Charisma is a key stat.


Indeed! It can get you more votes, like Obama and shit, but it also leads to populist(populism) speakers who get there vtoes from especially charisma.


...I think you have populism confused with the word popular...
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 8:57 pm

No, a populist is someone who follows populism :-).

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 9:02 pm

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No, a populist is someone who follows populism :-).


Populism is a view where you want what the POPulation wants.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 9:09 pm

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Populism is a view where you want what the POPulation wants.


Populism is a theory in which the leader acquires popular support by both charisma and palliatives, that is, apparent solutions to problems.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 9:12 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Liche wrote:

Populism is a view where you want what the POPulation wants.


Populism is a theory in which the leader acquires popular support by both charisma and palliatives, that is, apparent solutions to problems.

Ok, thanks for clearing it up.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Tue May 12, 2009 9:14 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Liche wrote:

Populism is a view where you want what the POPulation wants.


Populism is a theory in which the leader acquires popular support by both charisma and palliatives, that is, apparent solutions to problems.

Yea and its usual like People vs The Elite, as in they being the oppistion and the elite being the current government, and its not always left-wing, in fact, Europa the majorty of Populist parties are right-wing. And its all going by time and claiming they say what the people want etc. And what Zealot said, what the people want and mostly leaders with charisma and palliatives.

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Sat May 23, 2009 2:27 am

If you don't think comrade Stalin or comrade Lenin portrayed Socialism in a positive light then who did?
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Sat May 23, 2009 2:28 am

RedSoviet wrote:
welcome

Thank you. What do you mean by that version of the flag though?
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Sat May 23, 2009 5:08 am

VLADIMIR wrote:
If you don't think comrade Stalin or comrade Lenin portrayed Socialism in a positive light then who did?


No, they didn't portray socialism at all.

Examples of socialism? Paris Commune, Spanish communes during teh civil war and apparently the Free Territory of Ukraine.

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