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Anarchist.Dagger
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|  Subject: Hi from Revleft  Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| Just came over to check out this site. I'm usually on Revleft, but i'm looking forward to being active here as well.
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Voice of Reason
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:59 pm | |
| I don't know revleft, nut it sounds leftist.
Anyway welcome here. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:45 pm | |
| welcome hope you stay active.
so I suppose youre a communist revalutionoist, eh? |
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mononokifool
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oligarch
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:22 am | |
| RevLeft stands for Revolutionary Left. Its a forum.
Anyway, welcome comrade! I was hoping someone from RevLeft would come.
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:33 pm | |
| Ya, I'm a socialist revolutionary. i suppose i should've made that clear, since this isn't only a site for rev leftists.
Revleft is a forum where, as the title implies, revolutionaries can go to discuss politics, theory, philosophy, workers action, etc. I would suggest any socialist go and check it out.
I wouldn't have known about this site if one of its members hadn't mentioned it on revleft. I'm glad he did.
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:05 pm | |
| Oh? Sounds like my kind of place. I could learn more about true communism from there rather than my history books. Bleh. XD
Oh and hi~! 
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Diogritor
World Republic Party Member
Joined : 12 Jan 2008
Posts : 722
Location : USA USA USA
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:30 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | Ya, I'm a socialist revolutionary. i suppose i should've made that clear, since this isn't only a site for rev leftists.
Revleft is a forum where, as the title implies, revolutionaries can go to discuss politics, theory, philosophy, workers action, etc. I would suggest any socialist go and check it out.
I wouldn't have known about this site if one of its members hadn't mentioned it on revleft. I'm glad he did. |
So tell me. A leftist Revolution usually equates in Refugees running away, Genocides, another revolution a year later by the rightist.((Then civil war.)) so why should a nation go through a highly romantasised revolution to meet its goal of a Communist((Socialist)) State? |
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Kenzu
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Age : 21
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Posts : 802
Location : China - Shanghai
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:27 pm | |
| | hm, so RevLeft has basically only leftists? Am I right? Do you have any rightists? |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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Age : 20
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Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:53 pm | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | So tell me. A leftist Revolution usually equates in Refugees running away, Genocides, another revolution a year later by the rightist.((Then civil war.)) so why should a nation go through a highly romantasised revolution to meet its goal of a Communist((Socialist)) State? |
Blunt much? Is this the place to debate this? Did you honestly believe this is the theory portion of this site, or did you just want to make this a public spectacle instead of just PMing me?
I'll answer anyway.
You're trying to say what usually happens in revolution is what is supposed to happen. There is no way of telling what will ensue when revolution is upon us.
The reason we believe a nation should go through revolution is to create an egalitarian society where people can live autonomously and own their labour-power instead of having to sell it just to live. Anyone who makes a contribution to society should be able to earn a dignified wage without fear of oppression.
You have an anti-fascist picture, but you rant like a capitalist, which makes me think you are a hypocrite.
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| | Kenzu wrote: | | hm, so RevLeft has basically only leftists? Am I right? Do you have any rightists? |
Ya, but they are restricted to the opposing ideology section(and some other minor sections like chit-chat) of the forum along with reformists and those who were democratically decided to be counter-revolutionaries.
There are some senior revolutionaries on the site who, i am proud to say, i have learned much from. Most of the members of the (ironically called) 'Commie Club' are very knowledgable about every aspect of revolution.
You can look up more on the Commie Club here. It's a pretty cool set up.
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:49 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | | So tell me. A leftist Revolution usually equates in Refugees running away, Genocides, another revolution a year later by the rightist.((Then civil war.)) so why should a nation go through a highly romantasised revolution to meet its goal of a Communist((Socialist)) State? |
Blunt much? Is this the place to debate this? Did you honestly believe this is the theory portion of this site, or did you just want to make this a public spectacle instead of just PMing me?
I'll answer anyway.
You're trying to say what usually happens in revolution is what is supposed to happen. There is no way of telling what will ensue when revolution is upon us.
The reason we believe a nation should go through revolution is to create an egalitarian society where people can live autonomously and own their labour-power instead of having to sell it just to live. Anyone who makes a contribution to society should be able to earn a dignified wage without fear of oppression.
You have an anti-fascist picture, but you rant like a capitalist, which makes me think you are a hypocrite. |
This seems like the perfect place to discuss things.. and did you just call me an anti fascist? I am preaty sure that even though some of my veiws are left I am pure right. The reason I tolerate both is that a pure left or right society can never exist. |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:28 pm | |
| | Quote: | | This seems like the perfect place to discuss things |
Really? in an introduction forum?
| Quote: | | ..and did you just call me an anti fascist? |
No, i said you have an anti-fascist avatar. Anything you inferred was not my doing.
| Quote: | | I am preaty sure that even though some of my veiws are left I am pure right. |
Based on what?
| Quote: | | The reason I tolerate both is that a pure left or right society can never exist. |
Thanks Sherlock, mystery solved. There is no need to say something like that since 'right' and 'left' are completely subject to the conditions of the society. For instance, i am only 'leftist' because that is where my views are considered on a political spectrum of this day in age. On the other hand, if this world was communist (or something along those lines) i would probably be considered 'rightist' for my views on abortion, for example.
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Watermelon
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 97
Joined : 05 Apr 2008
Posts : 2641
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:05 pm | |
| Are you an anarchist, Marxist, socialist or what?
| Quote: | | my views on abortion, for example. |
So you are against abortion rights? I seem to recall you saying there's nothing wrong with prostitution or porn so this is a big surprise.
Now he'll probably say "I'm not anti-abortion I'm pro-life! At least I have some moral principles."  |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
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Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:18 am | |
| | Pannekoek wrote: | Are you an anarchist, Marxist, socialist or what?
| Quote: | | my views on abortion, for example. |
So you are against abortion rights? I seem to recall you saying there's nothing wrong with prostitution or porn so this is a big surprise.
Now he'll probably say "I'm not anti-abortion I'm pro-life! At least I have some moral principles." |
"pro-life" do we have any anti life? |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 848
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:12 am | |
| | Pannekoek wrote: | | Are you an anarchist, Marxist, socialist or what? |
I won't answer that. I'm somewhat of an anti-labelist. I don't like involving myself in minutia and demarcating titles. I've worked with anarchists, anarcho-communists and syndicalists, marxists, marxist-leninists, marxist-leninist-maoists, trotskyists, hoxhaists, and so on.
| Quote: | | So you are against abortion rights? I seem to recall you saying there's nothing wrong with prostitution or porn so this is a big surprise. |
Nah, i don't think it should be illegal, but i am, for sure, against the killing of the foetus.
| Quote: | | Now he'll probably say "I'm not anti-abortion I'm pro-life! At least I have some moral principles." |
"moral"? Why use that word. It really has no meaning outside of its religious context. And i don't adhere to religion, so no, i have no moral principals. I'm a sinner, and proud of it.
And anti-abortion is pro-life.
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Watermelon
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:50 am | |
| If you have no moral principles then why take a moral stance  |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:26 am | |
| | Pannekoek wrote: | | If you have no moral principles then why take a moral stance |
When did i take a "moral" stance? You mean i happen to agree with some biblical principal? (I'm not sure what you refer to, but...) that's just how i feel. It has nothing to do with religion, but rather, it's a decision i made on my own that happens to agree with the bible.
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Watermelon
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:11 am | |
| | Moral stance doesn't mean something religious it means a stance on what is right or wrong. |
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Anarchist.Dagger
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| | Subject: Re: Hi from Revleft Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:36 am | |
| morals are just cultural and religious constructs. I don't bind myself to such things. I don't think we should get bogged down with labeling things as right or wrong.
What do you think is moral? List some things.
Is cannibalism morally wrong?
What about drugs?
Prostitution?
Being a 'slut'?
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