Sara from Shanghai

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:16 pm

They know, because I have been bragging about it for a long time!
And there is a thread with a photo of you and me in a hidden forum too!

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:25 am

Toll!
Well,I have political class every week and I'll have the exam soon.Our teacher told us that we should write 500 words about the relationship between China and Japan,taiwan,or USA.
Some ideas?
For me,I don't like Japan the most.Many friends of my age think so too.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:40 am

But many of the other Chinese not only dislike Japanese government, they also dislike Japanese, which is wrong, because Japan has many good people too!

There are almost 5 million Japanese, who vote for the Japanese Communist Party.

The JCP promotes socialism, democracy and opposes militarism and US domination.

SECTIONS OF THE PROGRAM OF THE JAPANESE COMMUNIST PARTY

The JCP fought to end the autocratic rule of the emperor system which deprived the Japanese people of civil rights, and achieve the people's sovereign power, freedom, and human rights.

The JCP fought to abolish the semi-feudal landlord system and free the land for the peasants.

The JCP fought for fundamental improvement of living conditions of the working class who were suffering from harsh exploitation, and for the betterment of the rights and living standards of all working people, intellectuals, women and youth.

The JCP fought for the creation and dissemination of progressive, democratic, and revolutionary culture.

The JCP opposed Japanese imperialism's interventionist wars aimed at crushing the Russian revolution and the Chinese revolution, fought against its war of aggression against China, and called for peace throughout the world as well as in Asia.

The JCP supported the liberation of Korea and Taiwan, which were at the time colonies of Japanese imperialism, and fought for the complete independence of Asia's colonial and semi-colonial nations.

[Economic democracy]

1. Overcome the present state of "capitalism without rules" and, taking into account what has been achieved in major capitalist countries in Europe and through international conventions, build an "economy governed by rules" that defends the people's living standards and rights, including regulations regarding long working hours and arbitrary dismissals of workers.

2. Control large corporation's economic tyranny with democratic regulation as the main means; through the democratic regulation, require large corporations to fulfill their social responsibility for workers, consumers, small- and medium-sized businesses, regional economies, and the environment, with a view to promoting the establishment of rules for defending the people's living standards and rights and promoting balanced economic development; and oppose environmental destruction, including pollution, caused by economic activities and military bases, and strengthen regulatory measures for the conservation of nature and the protection of the environment.

3. Fundamentally change Japan's policy for agriculture, forestry, and fisheries as well as its energy policy that gives importance to efforts to increase the self-sufficiency of food, establish safety-first energy supply systems and raise the self-sufficiency in energy with a view to securing the safety of people's living conditions and the effective use of domestic resources; and promote agriculture as a key productive sector in the government's industrial policy.

4. Improve and establish a comprehensive social security system as the basic system that supports the living conditions of people of all strata; attach importance to establishing social facilities and programs to help maintain children's health and well-being and bring up children; and have Japanese society make efforts to reverse the falling birth rate.

http://www.jcp.or.jp/english/23rd_congress/program.html

Maybe you should write about the relation between Japan and China, and distinguishing differences between CCP and JCP.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:55 am

The JCP may be is a good Party,but why for such a long time the relationship between China and Japan is still not so good.
I can see that JCP is good Party for Japan,but what they have done something good for China?
We don't boycut things from Japan,we students don't join the procession just because we know it's not good for China itself. We need a peaceful socity so that we can develop more and more.But it doesn't mean that we forgive them.

If they apologize ,we two countries are good friends.But if they don't ,I think it's a moral issue.
This is what most Chinese students think about the relationship.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:10 am

Why judge someone on it's nationality? IF someone stands besides me to establish Socialism he shall be my brother-in-arms 9 figure sneakingly... reformist here), lets not get Nazi over this.. " you guys invaded us XXX years a go, so we hate you." I know numerous people that try and make arguments like that Politically valid... like that guy on deviant art kept bragging how his Granddad died in katyn therefore me and Communism is evil... pathetic how it was, I learned he was a law student... not quite encouraging that that idiots may one day be siting in the Seim ( ministry)

And ideas on the paper hmmm... well id stick to China vs US seeing its quite a large subject to cover, seeing there the most rivalry bastions ( aside from fascist Russia) on ideology, so it would cover a fair share of words.

Pleas lets stop hateing, becous capitalism is all based on hateing one another weather nation-wise, "race"-wise or look-wise.

Communism is not sopose to reproduce the stupidities of capitalism.

And speaking of which - Germans still didn't apologize to Poland, yet the smart share of society doesn't make a buzz about it Smile

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:43 am

Well...first of all ,we are not hating Japan.We just don't like Japan.
We are friendly to people all over the world.
Second,it's meaning less arguing about hate or like.The question is what's the future of the relationship between China and Japan?
or between Taiwan or USA.
Will someday wars begin again?
My friends ane I always think about what can we do for the society so that our society will be more stable.
hehe....lost...
Wink

We can only study and graduate.And stand the higher and higher price of the food and house.At the same time,many graduated people can't find a job.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:46 am

Cypranian, it's like the Polish and the Germans, for as long as they've been countries they've disliked one and other.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:01 am

hmmm......This is the world....when can it be changed?
Who knows....

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:11 am

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:48 am

hehe...that's true...in our imagination...
My teacher said that the world is not a moral system,but a big society which is full of rights and benefits.
Do you believe that one day we can achieve socialism? No hate or wars..only peace?
Or maybe you think it's only in our imagination too? Smile

(sometimes I really don't understand the world)

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:27 am

It's quite possible we will, but quite possible we won't. It's like a 75/75 percentile, it just doesn't make sense, like you said. In some cases rites are just the positive side of restriction. Rites are not freedom, the so we are not free, but as close as we can get, it depends on ones definition of freedom. Is freedom being able to buy your own land? Or the government giving every one equal healthcare benefits? Perhaps freedom is nobody gets anything and starting at the bottom. For socialism to happen every one would have to agree with socialism. Or someone would have to point a nuke the earth from in space, but hopefuly we aren't that desperate lol.

lol By the way, the only reason I sound all 'emo' and depressed is I've been reading conspiracy theorys about the end of the world. Sad

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:19 am

HEHE......also my friends are talking about the theory of the end of the world. One of my friend said that she would love to believe that is true.
I was totally surprised....Why???I asked,she said so that the world can start again.She thinks that's good.
I asked,even if you will die?you still like that?
she said yes.
well...though I think today's world is complicated ,I love my life... rabbit

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:04 pm

Grüß dich Genossin,

Es ist nett eine weibliche Person unter uns zu haben die sich politisch interessiert. Doch habe ich eine frage an dich? Aus welchen Gründen tritts du der Kommunistischen Partei bei? Der Kommuismus ist heutezutage nicht realisierbar oder wie siehst du das?

It´s nice to meet you, a girl within us who´s interessted in politics.
But I´ve got a question for you, Whose reassons are induce you to tread into the commi party? Communism couldn´t be realized these days, could be?

Sozialdemokratischer Gruß aus Deutschland

Social democracies gretting from Germany

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:08 pm

It's nice to meet you too.
I'm just have some ideas about today's world.
Maybe you'll think my opinions are so childish Razz

My grandfather is a member of Communist Party of China.When I was very young ,he always talked about the Korean War as well as many other wars he has taken part in.
It left a image that Communist Party of China is the greatest Party in the world.
When I was in high school,I have taken the classes about the Communist Party.
Because I live in China ,I think the social society which leads by Communist Party of China is the most suitable for current China.
Of course,maybe untial I die,this ideal is still in processing.

What's your opinion about the communism?

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:11 pm

First off, i'd like to say that, except for the reformism deal, i completely agree with Cyprian. Race is such an insignificant factor in life, and we, as socialists, need to refrain from such judgements, lest we find ourselves repeating, as Cyprian said, capitalist stupidities.

I also don't understand how Japan and China cannot get over something that happened first a century ago, and then like 65 years ago. Why does China want an apology from Japan? It wasn't Japan that made that war, it was the people within its government. The people of Japan should not be held responsible for what their despotic government decides to do. If the people of China cannot forgive, and instead hold a grudge, nothing's going to change in their relations with the Japanese. These stupid grudges only strengthen governments anyway, so the longer we hate others for belonging to a different country, or nationality, the more difficult it will become achieving our ideal of communism.

Also, let's not be so idealist to believe that communism is inevitable (Not that anyone has said this so far, just in anticipation). If we do not become active and keep pushing, nothing will be achieved.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:21 pm

i knew a japanes, lol he wasnt nationalistik, but he hated chines, and he was proud of what his grandparents had done 65 years ago... Suspect

Komsomol Member Joined : 12 Jan 2008 Posts : 178

Pheew correcting all the either politically incorrect or illogical statements in this thread could take some time, so let's just begin.
Not liking somebody because of his nationality is simply racism. As my girlfriend is japanese-korean, I would like to ask you for an excuse to the Japanese people.
Following a political fraction because the main party won a war 40 years ago is also not the best idea. Taking classes about the communist party of china in china itself might also not be the most unbiased thing you can do.

Also one question why does your friend think the world will start anew after it's destruction?

Nonetheless welcome to the forum on my part.

P.S. Respekt dein Deutsch ist schon sehr gut. Ich schätze Kenzu hat dir sehr geholfen.

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:27 pm

I know someone who's half japnese, their dad works at a place that does research for atomic bombs. lol

Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:18 pm

Communism is a hard goal, no doubt about it, but its also very inspiring and I think that in the long run it will work - its just making that first hard step thats jamming the world for the bast century.
Either people being too close minded, or people doing it wrongly... but hey were all humans, if we wouldn't make mistakes we would be a perfect society already Smile