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Watermelon
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:24 am

Guns don't kill people bullets kill people.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:40 pm

not an internationalist, and the whole genocide ordeal.

send him.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:27 pm

he attempted socialism before the material condittions were ripe

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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:03 pm

it should stay like it is, he did good think an biuld up the Union and he meke horrible thinks, its ok now like it is
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:10 am

Stalin saved USSR from holocaust.... but he destroyed the pure, the essence of communist dream... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:54 am

destroy stalin, he butchered the revolution.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:00 pm

Marx-Allende wrote:
destroyed the pure, the essence of communist dream... Rolling Eyes

The democracy? Well, he had no choice. In critical situations in a country, the pluralism of opinions isn't very good. I'm sure that Stalin would've returned to the conception of a soviet democracy if the conditions would've allowed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:29 am

I´m not sure if he was a good leader, but he made terrible things and I don´t like his person cult. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:57 pm

stalin was a good leader but he IS the pure evil! just hitler was insaner
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:31 am

Patetine wrote:
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Stalin is a very controversial point!!! affraid

Riddler wrote:
Marx-Allende wrote:
destroyed the pure, the essence of communist dream... Rolling Eyes

The democracy? Well, he had no choice. In critical situations in a country, the pluralism of opinions isn't very good. I'm sure that Stalin would've returned to the conception of a soviet democracy if the conditions would've allowed it.


maybe... but then... all the "communist" leaders followed incorrectly the same... that is the problem... Im not revisionist but communist dream was forgotten... No

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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:03 pm

It is common to talk of communism as some kind of dream and that certain revolutionaries have somehow 'destroyed the dream' through their practice. This marks the difference between idealism and scientific materialism. Stalin emerged at a time when progress was confronted by the most brutal reactionary ideology, fascism had declared war on the workers and peasants of the world.

At the time of the anti-fascist struggle, there was little talk of Stalin being wrong in his crushing of the Hitlerite regime, rather when the war ended, the western capitalist powers sought to present Stalin as something akin to Hitler, coverring up their own collaboration and sympathy for fascism.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:06 pm

And even claiming to have "killed the wrong pig". Refering to their position against Germany in mid-war as mistaken and rather having been convenient to attack USSR.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:54 pm

stalin maybe saved the motherland, but he damned the communism, and they will be damned for centrys now
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:05 pm

History marches on, and it is necessary that we learn from Stalin's legacy. Certainly he made mistakes, but he made them at a time of difficult decisions and triumphed over all our enemies. Therefore he remains a comrade of all communists and it is up to us to ensure that our practice avoids his errors.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:34 pm

Antifa wrote:
History marches on, and it is necessary that we learn from Stalin's legacy. Certainly he made mistakes, but he made them at a time of difficult decisions and triumphed over all our enemies. Therefore he remains a comrade of all communists and it is up to us to ensure that our practice avoids his errors.


like exporting grain and letting the workers starve?
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:29 pm

mattabesta wrote:

like exporting grain and letting the workers starve?


Whatever the eror migt be he means. I think he was pretty clear.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:48 pm

WARNING OFF-TOPIC MESSAGE: Mattabesta u put Bunny in your singute ^_^
I should go on his good side if i was you evry one else :O!
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:58 pm

Antifa wrote:
History marches on, and it is necessary that we learn from Stalin's legacy. Certainly he made mistakes, but he made them at a time of difficult decisions and triumphed over all our enemies. Therefore he remains a comrade of all communists and it is up to us to ensure that our practice avoids his errors.


Agreed. Not only do communists say this, but even some reactionary capitalists as well. However, as humanity as a whole, says this...

Humans must learn from the past.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:51 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
Antifa wrote:
History marches on, and it is necessary that we learn from Stalin's legacy. Certainly he made mistakes, but he made them at a time of difficult decisions and triumphed over all our enemies. Therefore he remains a comrade of all communists and it is up to us to ensure that our practice avoids his errors.


Agreed. Not only do communists say this, but even some reactionary capitalists as well. However, as humanity as a whole, says this...

Humans must learn from the past.

really jeiro?
of course we learn from the past but, the only reason that stalin is even created with the swelling of the soviet economy(IE five years plan etc)
is because he stole his plans from accomplished revolutionaries.
how i wish i was my great grandpa so i could have shot him in the civil war.
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PostSubject: Re: Deportation of Stalin into Gulag   Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:05 am

beatnikzach wrote:

really jeiro?
of course we learn from the past but, the only reason that stalin is even created with the swelling of the soviet economy(IE five years plan etc)
is because he stole his plans from accomplished revolutionaries.
how i wish i was my great grandpa so i could have shot him in the civil war.

omg if the Bolsheviks would have stayed in control i would be living in russia right now.
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