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Do you like Ho Chi Minh?
Yes, he is a hero!
41%
 41% [ 5 ]
Yes, I like him.
25%
 25% [ 3 ]
I don't care
8%
 8% [ 1 ]
No, I don't like him
0%
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No, he is a tyrant!
25%
 25% [ 3 ]
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carmen510
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:14 am

Ho Chi Minh was one of the greater leaders of the North Vietnamese cause, even though I disagree that the Vietnam War was necessary.

I'm not sure I could call him the greatest, but he certainly was one of the better socialist leaders, instead of, say, two of the greatest mass murderers of all time.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:34 am

He was a charismatic leader but not a true communist.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:34 am

carmen510 wrote:
Ho Chi Minh was one of the greater leaders of the North Vietnamese cause, even though I disagree that the Vietnam War was necessary.

I'm not sure I could call him the greatest, but he certainly was one of the better socialist leaders, instead of, say, two of the greatest mass murderers of all time.

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:37 am

mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


I think you might be right.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:37 am

oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


I think you might be right.

thank you
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:56 pm

mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:05 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


Saloth Sar should definately be in the hall of shame. He killed over three million people in a Nazi style campaign of ethnic cleansing.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:17 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes

no he was more evil he killed like 1 million pepole.
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oligarch
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:56 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.
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mattabesta
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:53 pm

oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.

why it were the vietmanise who got them to power not the us.
the vietnameise peobably wund have turend communist if the us ha acknowlegd them.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:19 pm

mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.

why it were the vietmanise who got them to power not the us.
the vietnameise peobably wund have turend communist if the us ha acknowlegd them.


You sure about that?
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:33 am

mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.

why it were the vietmanise who got them to power not the us.
the vietnameise peobably wund have turend communist if the us ha acknowlegd them.


Woodrow Wilson refused to support Vietnamese independence in the 20's but there was no chance that he would to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:09 pm

kahnsguard wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.

why it were the vietmanise who got them to power not the us.
the vietnameise peobably wund have turend communist if the us ha acknowlegd them.


You sure about that?

ye there were two superpowers the us and the ussr if the us wun't help them then the ussr is the next logical conclusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:13 pm

mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.

why it were the vietmanise who got them to power not the us.?

The Vietnamese FOUGHT them, DEFEATED them and REPLACED them by a real socialist government.
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Renegade_Kautsky
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:03 pm

oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.


Nah, the Khmer Rouge was just f***ing nuts! Calling them "death worshipers" wouldn't go far enough...
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mattabesta
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:22 am

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.


Nah, the Khmer Rouge was just f***ing nuts! Calling them "death worshipers" wouldn't go far enough...

some brutallaty here eh?
why don't we discuss the actecks?
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oligarch
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:35 am

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
oligarch wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

he was a good leader but he mass murdered opposition wich makes him belong in a hall of
SHAME!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHAH


And I'm sure that American supported Pol Pot in Cambodia was "less evil" than the "evil" commie Ho Chi Min?

Nice observation. Rolling Eyes


The Khmer Rouge regime's brutality was largely caused by the US invasion.


Nah, the Khmer Rouge was just f***ing nuts! Calling them "death worshipers" wouldn't go far enough...


Obliteration of Self would be more accurate.
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:54 pm

kenzu time to lock this thread
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:15 am

Fricken Asians..messing things up.. They take Russian Socialism and turn it into strait Genocide..
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PostSubject: Re: Ho Chi Minh   Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:19 pm

Diogritor wrote:
Fricken Asians..messing things up.. They take Russian Socialism and turn it into strait Genocide..


lol do I spot racism??
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