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Shabazz Freeman
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:08 pm

I've got to say

im not interested in anything that limits peoples freedoms short of harming another human being or exploiting them.

Thats like saying I should pall around with the KKK for a bit since I am for integration cause I might agree with them.

i feel like that is idealist poison

ESPECIALLY considering the majority of you guys haven't read anything EMY and I have yet you demand that we read EVERYTHING else before becoming confident in what we HAVE actually read. Most of you assume that because I am so passionately for marxism, I MUST not have read ANYTHING ELSE from the opposing side.

I still take american politics even though i believe universal suffrage is an illusion in capitalist society. I still read news besides Worker's Vanguard. People give me books of opposing philosophies ALL of the time expecting that I MUST go to their side after i read it and i still stand strong. And most of them were put on me because the person couldn't even explain it well enough.

NOW if someone gives me a reformist paper I KNOW i will disagree because i understand how reforms work. There will NEVER be a reform that says "all fo the property owners fork it over to the workers and police give up your weapons" so...what is the point of wasting my time?

As a marxist, that does not interest me. BEFORE I loved reforms and i thought that was they way. But i have taken information from the MARXIST perspetive that makes me against them. So...haven't I already learned my lesson?

"I used to think 2+2=3 but now that i took a math class i know 2+2=4"
"well read this theorist that says 2+2=17"

no there is ONE reality and to think reality depends on the person is idealist

and I am not an idealist
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:01 pm

say that a=1 and b=1
so a=b
also a^2=ab
subtract b^2 from both sides to get
a^2-b^2= ab -b^2
factor both sides to get
(a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b)
divide both by (a-b) to get
a+b=b
so 2=1
subtract 1 from both sides
1=0
multiply both by 15
15=0
add 2 to both sides
17=2
this can be written as
1+1=17
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:05 pm

you can't multiply

0 by 15

nice try
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:06 pm

lol you you can't divide it not can't multiply. Don't you know math?

also just because you read nonsocialist books doesnt mean I have to.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:16 am

Pannekoek wrote:
lol you you can't divide it not can't multiply. Don't you know math?

also just because you read nonsocialist books doesnt mean I have to.

you should
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:19 am

mononokifool wrote:
Pannekoek wrote:
lol you you can't divide it not can't multiply. Don't you know math?

also just because you read nonsocialist books doesnt mean I have to.

you should


does he really need it when he is submerged in a sea of reactionary bullshit?

it isn't as though he is studying it in a vacuum dude...
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:21 am

Word. Life in America is an antisocialist book.
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PostSubject: Nah   Wed May 07, 2008 6:04 am

As long as people are willing to be led there will be at least some kind of sudo religion. rather as long as people have the urge to ascend to absolute power. nothing keeps people under control better than "god" and those who control him are the most powerful people on earth.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 6:49 am

alek its true to a certain extent, but the problem with people since the beginning of time is as long as people have deep seeded problems, they will always have to take solice in any form deitity.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 6:55 am

right, but what I'm saying is while spirituality and personal theological speculation may be be inevitable, organized religion is almost exclusively the product of someone trying to personally benefit from it
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:09 am

well that can be the argument for modern western religion, but what about religion based on personal enlightenment?

the only religions that should be toloerated are those not based on fear of damnation, ie western religion, but those based on self enlightenment. that being said religion is the a perfect example of power how money perverts anything that had anything that even has a hint of morality behind. gotta love it, there is your capitalism in action right there.
but then again i am a nihilist.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:16 am

but what else is there? polytheism is sorta ridiculous. Buddhism is acceptable in some aspects. and doaism is more of a philosophy
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:20 am

there is jainism, there is taoism, and confucianism.
all of which have their own acceptial aspects and their own faults.
but so does all religion.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:32 am

fair enough, and i must admit I've never heard any of those religions being associated with genocide, financial corruption or intolerance. all the things we westerners have come to know and love in our religions

but I'm still a happy atheist Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:39 am

yeah well all religions carry their blemishes.
and alek you know me, hooray for nihilism.
even if there is a god, shit where does it say we have to worship his megalomaniac ass
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:45 am

haha amen to that Zach

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:48 am

hahah RAmen as we pastafarians say.

maybe i should write a book now and say that another peoples country belongs to me and my devote followers.
zionism, it makes perfect sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:52 am

just make me a prophet and I'll endorse that book till the sun comes up.

as far as a holy land...

maybe we should look for a change of pace and pick a place that doesn't suck dick...
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:54 am

of course you, sacco and venzetti and subcomandante marcos will be the prophets of this religion.

and well our holy land is isreal LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will be no religion in the future?   Wed May 07, 2008 7:59 am

hahaha for lack of a better word sounds dank. lol!
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