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PostSubject: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:02 pm
i think that pope is like a Emperor and Roman Catholic Church is Empire.
Who's whit me?!
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:03 pm
That's completely right. The Roman Catholic Church just as most churches are economical empires, centres of power that should be abolished by force!
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:15 pm
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
That's completely right. The Roman Catholic Church just as most churches are economical empires, centres of power that should be abolished by force!

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i think that pope is like a Emperor and Roman Catholic Church is Empire.
Who's whit me?!


I'm truly not with you (as allways,just kidding , if you say right things i might admit). Sorry i just can't say that well in english so it try to say like this: emperor can't be elected , emperor take power by forse or by birth possibility
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:18 pm
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
That's completely right. The Roman Catholic Church just as most churches are economical empires, centres of power that should be abolished by force!

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i think that pope is like a Emperor and Roman Catholic Church is Empire.
Who's whit me?!


I'm truly not with you (as allways,just kidding , if you say right things i might admit). Sorry i just can't say that well in english so it try to say like this: emperor can't be elected , emperor take power by forse or by birth possibility


ok lets swich word emperor to dictator
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:18 pm
i would just call it culture and faith
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:43 pm
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i would just call it culture and faith


One thing is faith: When you say you believe that Jesus Christ was indeed the messiah, envoy of God.

One thing is culture: When you follow the Christmas tradition of sitting with your family and having some dinner, put your tree, give gifts to each other and maybe sing some carols.

But other is the church: An entity that exploits people's faith to get incomes and thus economic and politic power doing nothing but enagenating people to a "church cult".
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:37 pm
Roman Catholic Churc was greedy 'cause thei were selling forgiveness and poor people wasted their money to that
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:41 pm
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Roman Catholic Churc was greedy 'cause thei were selling forgiveness and poor people wasted their money to that

Poor people couldn't afford that and you talking about middleages.
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:49 pm
I dont like the pope either. Let him be the pope, but take away the billions of Euros the church has in the bank accounts!
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:53 pm
and there to put those billions?
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:56 pm
I shouldnt need to ask this but how many of youknow anything about
the catholic ´church?
First: The catholic church is the biggest social entity in the world, no organisation, not even Microsoft, has more employees or gives more money to help people in need. Whats left of the money is used for the restauration of churches and other catholic sites which are considered by Unesco as Heritage of Humanity. Vatican has been losing money for a very long time now, by holding nothing back.
Second: The Pope is the spiritual leader of a billion people in the world, who is elected by his peers to office. Just regard him as a president with a slightly longer period of power.
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:11 am
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I shouldnt need to ask this but how many of youknow anything about
the catholic ´church?

I know of them , im catholic too ,i know that country pay's for priests and i know that people donates to church , not forced to give money for church.
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:13 am
Yes, maybe you are right.

Then I would stop giving the church government support. If believers pay them, let them pay.

The church must pay property tax like everyone else though! (Churches could be exlcluded though)
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:16 am
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Then I would stop giving the church government support. If believers pay them, let them pay.

As i said government pays priest as country's workers and people donate not for priest , but to church.
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:16 am
name me a country where the curch doesnt pay taxes
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:18 am
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name me a country where the curch doesnt pay taxes

Haha Vatican i think Very Happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:25 am
ok you got me
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:30 am
what of the Pentecostal and Salvation Army?
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:33 am
what about them
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PostSubject: Re: Pope is/was a Dictator   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:16 am
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Roman Catholic Churc was greedy 'cause thei were selling forgiveness and poor people wasted their money to that

Poor people couldn't afford that and you talking about middleages.


Then what do you think was one of the prime issues with the Lutheran reform? Precisely the indulgencies. Poor people could waste great part of their miserable incomes on those ridiculous indulgencies.
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