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Comrade-kRad
Young Pioneer
Age : 19
Joined : 25 Jan 2008
Posts : 10
Location : Buffalo,NY, USA
|  Subject: Re: china  Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:25 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | OF COURSE NO CUNTRY HASN'D YET BEEN COMMUNIST BECUSE COMMUNISM DOSE NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
"communism dose not work" that's because people crave power, wealth, and status. People for the most part are inheriently greedy. Those that are not are often corrupted by wealth and power later on.
Anyway, I think that china still has many labor law issues to be dealt with, and before they need to worry about minimum wage they should adress saftey issues in alot of the idustries. Mine working for example is extremely dangerous in China due to lack of saftey codes or inspections.
They are growing economically because they have become more open to letting outside investors in and allowing for a more open trade market. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:21 pm | |
| | Kenzu wrote: | Actually Chinas isolasion policy which lasted a few hundred years, including around 19th century plumbed it into backwardness, not communism.
While it was still a monarchy foreign powers invaded it, and China couldnt defend itself.
With Chinese Communists seizing power, and with huge aid from USSR, China became a strong military power and an industrialised nation! |
correct.
but china is a new super power and many pepole are afraid of what china will do when it finally complytly overtakes the u.s .
I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change.
will it try to provke communism in other cunties like the ussr did?
How knows where theier heading? |
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comiescums
Experienced Pioneer
Joined : 12 Jan 2008
Posts : 62
Location : East Europe
| | Subject: Re: china Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:48 am | |
| | Quote: | | I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change. |
Like U.S. do nothing , so will do China , they need 'power',influence... |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:58 pm | |
| | comiescums wrote: | | Quote: | | I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change. |
Like U.S. do nothing , so will do China , they need 'power',influence... |
chinese submariens "accsedentally" turned up in the middel of a us navy practes with out the us ever noteching them till they surfeced. |
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revolution
World Republic Party Member
Age : 908
Joined : 15 Oct 2007
Posts : 759
Location : Virginia
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:46 am | |
| China capitulated to the west, thus it is now capitalist.
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:36 am | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | correct.
but china is a new super power and many pepole are afraid of what china will do when it finally complytly overtakes the u.s .
I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change.
will it try to provke communism in other cunties like the ussr did?
How knows where theier heading? |
China cannot promote a doctrine it doesn't follow, that is, it cannot promote communism.
It will be in my view some sort of non-imperialist USA with a "red" face which will, as it is doing right now, take advantage of other countries' imperialisms. |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:43 am | |
| | Comrade-kRad wrote: | | "communism dose not work" that's because people crave power, wealth, and status. People for the most part are inheriently greedy. Those that are not are often corrupted by wealth and power later on. |
I'd say communism hasn't been even tried to be established because all the "attempts" to establish it have been employing capitalism.
| Comrade-kRad wrote: |
Anyway, I think that china still has many labor law issues to be dealt with, and before they need to worry about minimum wage they should adress saftey issues in alot of the idustries. Mine working for example is extremely dangerous in China due to lack of saftey codes or inspections.
They are growing economically because they have become more open to letting outside investors in and allowing for a more open trade market. |
Yes, that's a more efficient State Capitalism. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:40 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | correct.
but china is a new super power and many pepole are afraid of what china will do when it finally complytly overtakes the u.s .
I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change.
will it try to provke communism in other cunties like the ussr did?
How knows where theier heading? |
China cannot promote a doctrine it doesn't follow, that is, it cannot promote communism.
It will be in my view some sort of non-imperialist USA with a "red" face which will, as it is doing right now, take advantage of other countries' imperialisms. |
yeah they gave up on trying  |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:22 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: |
yeah they gave up on trying |
They simply never tried. |
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Diogritor
World Republic Party Member
Joined : 12 Jan 2008
Posts : 722
Location : USA USA USA
| | Subject: Re: china Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:26 am | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
yeah they gave up on trying |
They simply never tried. |
why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation. |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:58 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
yeah they gave up on trying |
They simply never tried. |
why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation. |
China can't be poor: full of resources and workforce and having a vast territory.
They're simply following the path to make their state capitalism to function more efficiently than it did. |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
Experienced Party Member
Age : 17
Joined : 03 Feb 2008
Posts : 834
Location : The Circle of Flow
| | Subject: Re: china Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:22 pm | |
| I personally think China is on it's way to the great nation it once was back during the Dynasties of the old...
It will take a while for them to get there, but I have absolute confidence that they can and will. Simply because of one thing that most Westerns can not and WILL NOT bear to understand.
Tradition. ^^ |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:46 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | Diogritor wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
yeah they gave up on trying |
They simply never tried. |
why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation. |
China can't be poor: full of resources and workforce and having a vast territory.
They're simply following the path to make their state capitalism to function more efficiently than it did. |
umm before enclosed marked
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo22/images/china-graph.gif
and after check it out |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:12 pm | |
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What's your point? |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:24 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: |
What's your point? |
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm growth in life standards and gpd= iormus |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 20
Joined : 06 Dec 2007
Posts : 1854
Location : Mexico/Russia/World
| | Subject: Re: china Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:45 am | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: |
What's your point? |
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm growth in life standards and gpd= iormus |
Iormus?  |
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Comrade Pollett
World Republic Party Member
Age : 15
Joined : 14 Oct 2007
Posts : 728
Location : British Commonwealth>Canada>Newfoundland and labrador
| | Subject: Re: china Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:43 am | |
| | China is one of the farthest things from communism |
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Jinnyjinster
Pioneer
Joined : 14 Feb 2008
Posts : 49
Location : On the campaign trail, covering Obama
| | Subject: Re: china Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:42 pm | |
| | Look, everybody, as a Chinese, I see that Communism has been virtually destroyed in it. Political regulations are tight, but economic regulations virtually don't exist anymore. Yet the children still sing the age old songs of Communism, and I have no doubt that their parents still do, too. |
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carmen510
Pioneer Leader
Joined : 27 Jan 2008
Posts : 76
| | Subject: Re: china Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:21 am | |
| | China's economy got better after a combination of the shedding of state property and the embracing of a more open policy. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 997
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 2974
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: china Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:51 am | |
| | carmen510 wrote: | | China's economy got better after a combination of the shedding of state property and the embracing of a more open policy. |
ya but the polution is so hidh and and if the bubbel burst chinas in trubel. |
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