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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:58 pm

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wwll if politics are a circel then facism is close to communism.


But it's not, so it isn't.

I'm sorry, but this quote just makes me less fond of Lincoln. I don't play down what he did for a whole race of people (or what he began to do), but if he believes this way, and is indeed a socialist, why didn't he do more? He may not have power, so to speak, as president, but surely he had influence and could've done much more to further our cause.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:03 pm

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. I could have done a lot in my life. I didn't. Why didn't he? Because he didn't. A lot of people don't do more. You could do more, but you don't. Why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:08 pm

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Coulda, woulda, shoulda. I could have done a lot in my life. I didn't. Why didn't he? Because he didn't. A lot of people don't do more. You could do more, but you don't. Why not?


What the hell are you talking about? If he was really a socialist, he would've done more for socialism (as it stands, he did little to nothing). Ya, i could do more, but i'm trying to balance political activity and a social life. "Because he didn't" is not a valid excuse.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:45 pm

But he wasn't a sosh. he was a sosh. LOBSTER!
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:11 am

Lobster? Wha?
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:18 am

Have you ever heard the song rock lobster? highly recommended. "but it wasn't a rock it was a rock.... LOBSTER!"
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:18 am

Pannekoek wrote:
But he wasn't a sosh. he was a sosh. LOBSTER!


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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:22 am

What is it to you?
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:16 am

Right... anyway. Yes, it is a valid excuse. He didn't. I mean, one can't ask him, at least I hope not, (zombie Lincoln! Run!) so what other excuse is there? It's an excuse I myself use quite often. There's no underlying reason for me doing or not doing something. It's just because. Maybe he planned on it, and never got around to it. Perhaps he was happy with things the way they were. Or perhaps he looked at it all from a philisophical standpoint, as I do.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:12 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Right... anyway. Yes, it is a valid excuse.


No, it's not; wow, you make debating you very easy.

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so what other excuse is there?


... I don't know, cos he's not a socialist; why don't you ask Lincoln? Cos i'm sure he wouldn't say: "Because"

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Maybe he planned on it, and never got around to it. Perhaps he was happy with things the way they were. Or perhaps he looked at it all from a philisophical standpoint, as I do.


Then he wasn't a socialist, and you're continuing this debate for no purpose and wasting both our time.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:45 am

Meh, I have no other use of my time right now. And how is it not an valid excuse? Like I said, it's one I personlly use at times. Everyone does. Soemtimes reasons are nonexistant. Plain and simple.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:24 pm

i have no reason for making this spam post
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:42 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Meh, I have no other use of my time right now. And how is it not an valid excuse? Like I said, it's one I personlly use at times. Everyone does. Soemtimes reasons are nonexistant. Plain and simple.


... Well you don't stand for anything. Socialists do. If you're not politically active (at your own pace), i don't really consider you a socialist, unless of course there is a logical excuse. Like Pannekoek isn't active because he's young, and has limited resources and abilities under his parents' tyranical, iron fisted rule.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:38 am

No, I'm not a socialist. And forgive me, but iron fisted tyrannical?
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:11 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
No, I'm not a socialist. And forgive me, but iron fisted tyrannical?


You don't believe me? Just go ask him yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:36 pm

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Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Right... anyway. Yes, it is a valid excuse.


No, it's not; wow, you make debating you very easy.

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so what other excuse is there?


... I don't know, cos he's not a socialist; why don't you ask Lincoln? Cos i'm sure he wouldn't say: "Because"

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Maybe he planned on it, and never got around to it. Perhaps he was happy with things the way they were. Or perhaps he looked at it all from a philisophical standpoint, as I do.


Then he wasn't a socialist, and you're continuing this debate for no purpose and wasting both our time.



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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:38 pm

Socialist is someone who supports socialism. Activist is someone who is active fighting for a cause. Mark is a socialist activist. I am just a socialist. Although its kind of pointless to argue over semantics.

And yes, iron fisted tyrannical.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:35 am

Pannekoek wrote:
Socialist is someone who supports socialism. Activist is someone who is active fighting for a cause.


I don't really see it that way. Ya, technically that's true. But when you hear someone say capitalist, do you really think of someone who supports the capitalist system? Usually people think of the bourgeoisie. I mean, there are a lot of workers who support capitalism, but they aren't my enemy until they take up arms in counter-revolution. And i think it's the same way for socialists. Again, i know some people, like you, have a pretty good excuse and will probably become politically active when the excuse is gone.

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And yes, iron fisted tyrannical.


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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:01 am

Allright, Pann, please explain. I mean, forgve me, but you're 13, or at least the thing says so. All parents rule with tyrrany and an iron fist as far as a 13 year old is concerned.
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PostSubject: Re: Interesting Lincoln quote   Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:44 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Allright, Pann, please explain. I mean, forgve me, but you're 13, or at least the thing says so. All parents rule with tyrrany and an iron fist as far as a 13 year old is concerned.

no they dont

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