|
|
| Author | Message |
|---|
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:51 am | |
| anyone celebrating it? I am gonna try and sell literature to the youth at the SF demonstration this weekend and ideally win some radicals over to a trotskyist perspective with my comrades http://www.juneteenth.com/ |
|
 | |
Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee

Posts: 1684 Join date: 2008-04-04 Age: 21 Location: Sisyphean Hell
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:51 pm | |
| I may, because it was a big step in the right direction, but slavery hasn't ended in the US. There's still wage-slavery, child labour, and immigrants gettin paid pennies to do legitimate, valuable work. But i did request the day off work so i could go up to Five Points, at least for a couple hours. _________________ "A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself." --Karl Polanyi--
|
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:56 pm | |
| wage-slavery does exist but chattel slavery has been smashed they are not equal forms of exploitation and to put them on the same level is insensitive in my opinion. Not to say that wage-slavery isn't a terrible form of exploitation, i just feel funny equating them... |
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:56 pm | |
| im not celebrating it why should i? it hapend 150 years ago. _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:00 pm | |
| are you fucking kidding me? |
|
 | |
revolution Member of the WR Committee

Posts: 1016 Join date: 2007-10-15 Age: 99 Location: The old U.S.S.A.
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| And its still being celebrated, what does that tell you? (to pankake) _________________ hack the planet
Last edited by revolution on Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| dud. its like when pepol celibrate there bday. wtf? or july 4th. wtf? okay it hapend a long time ago wel celebrate it a long time ago not now. _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
revolution Member of the WR Committee

Posts: 1016 Join date: 2007-10-15 Age: 99 Location: The old U.S.S.A.
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:05 pm | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | | dud. its like when pepol celibrate there bday. wtf? or july 4th. wtf? okay it hapend a long time ago wel celebrate it a long time ago not now. |
That made no sense. _________________ hack the planet
|
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:06 pm | |
| wel anyway congrats on reaching 500 posts okay today is june 20 lets celebrate this every year okay? _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:15 pm | |
| EDIT by Jeiro: I HAVE SINGLE-HANDEDLY REMOVED SHABAZZ' PASSIONATE EMOTION BECAUSE I LOVE FORCING VICTIMS OF OFFENSIVE STATEMENTS TO JUST SIT THERE AND TAKE IT
Last edited by Shabazz Freeman on Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:30 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : foul...ness. Yes. :P) |
|
 | |
revolution Member of the WR Committee

Posts: 1016 Join date: 2007-10-15 Age: 99 Location: The old U.S.S.A.
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:25 pm | |
| | Shabazz Freeman wrote: | YOU JUST COMPARED AN INTERNET POST COUNT TO THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY!
if i wasn't afraid of getting banned... |
Calm down, I think he did that without realizing it. _________________ hack the planet
|
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:26 pm | |
| dud. "if i wsent afeared of bannings" you say that every time. chilax dud plus whats so bad about comparing it- there both an event and im talking about celebrating it _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:27 pm | |
| EDIT: I STILL HATE IT WHEN SHABAZZ EXPRESSES LEGIT EMOTION AGAINST OFFENSIVE STATEMENTS
Last edited by Shabazz Freeman on Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:29 pm | |
| hey dont get mad at me get mad at my material conditions. _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
revolution Member of the WR Committee

Posts: 1016 Join date: 2007-10-15 Age: 99 Location: The old U.S.S.A.
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:35 pm | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | | dud. "if i wsent afeared of bannings" you say that every time. chilax dud plus whats so bad about comparing it- there both an event and im talking about celebrating it |
Well, there's a BIG difference between the two. _________________ hack the planet
|
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:39 pm | |
| So according to relt the thousands of freed slaves fighting alongside the union army to smash chattel slavery is an event to be forgotten because materialism as he understands it suggests that that event is no more important than an internet post count on a site full of studying revolutionary youth... PRAISE HIM! |
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:39 pm | |
| so? theres a big diference betuine dinesars and birds but theyre related. birds are decended from dinesars. some of them have the same kind of hip. soo im right. _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:46 pm | |
|
Last edited by Shabazz Freeman on Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:13 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
 | |
Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 2640 Join date: 2008-04-05 Age: 98 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:04 am | |
| i was responding to him dumass i sisnt say to forget it just why would i celebrate it? celebrating doesnt do anything. _________________  "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization" Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990 accept green or die!!! my name is evyindur H haarde |
|
 | |
Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Juneteenth Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:16 am | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | | i was responding to him dumass i sisnt say to forget it just why would i celebrate it? celebrating doesnt do anything. |
celebrating it honors those that fought for it while taking tome to come together and discuss what still needs to be done.
It is a chance for cadre and youth to come together and discuss the best path forward. A chance to learn about history and relate it to the present. A chance to inform those who do not know about it and ensure that they are not forgotten. |
|
 | |
|