Converting to Communism?

**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 12:22 pm

Jesus wrote:

You know what they say, only the idiots don't change their mind.

yay. be liberal or be communist BUT DONT BE CONSERVATIVE thats what i say hurray. i think the communist party should let him in. but i think you jesus should rahter start with social democracy or the socialist party maybe.?

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 2:47 pm

Tyrlop wrote:

Jesus wrote:

You know what they say, only the idiots don't change their mind.

yay. be liberal or be communist BUT DONT BE CONSERVATIVE thats what i say hurray. i think the communist party should let him in. but i think you jesus should rahter start with social democracy or the socialist party maybe.?

Yeah, he should start around that.

Soo, why not be conservative, just wondering.
In American sense I will agree, but in European.. I'm not sure.

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**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 3:13 pm

CoolKidX wrote:

Tyrlop wrote:

Jesus wrote:

You know what they say, only the idiots don't change their mind.

yay. be liberal or be communist BUT DONT BE CONSERVATIVE thats what i say hurray. i think the communist party should let him in. but i think you jesus should rahter start with social democracy or the socialist party maybe.?

Yeah, he should start around that.

Soo, why not be conservative, just wondering.
In American sense I will agree, but in European.. I'm not sure.

conservatism is the biggest bullshit ever. worse then nazism, fascism, stalinism and so on.

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 3:20 pm

Tyrlop wrote:

conservatism is the biggest bullshit ever. worse then nazism, fascism, stalinism and so on.

How come? Are the Danish conservatives that bad?

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 4:08 pm

what?
who interpretted that?
i said that all theese are in my opinion very flawed and will never be able to be the perfect society people want
what i meant was stay a moderate as so far none of the parties here are doing so well

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sat May 16, 2009 8:42 pm

"Perfect" is subjective. My standards of a perfect economic system, and therefore society, is one in which the workers own and control the means of production directly. I.e communism. It has been put into practice and worked untiol destroyed by extrinsic factors.

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 2:41 am

name some places
what factors?

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 2:50 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

"Perfect" is subjective. My standards of a perfect economic system, and therefore society, is one in which the workers own and control the means of production directly. I.e communism. It has been put into practice and worked untiol destroyed by extrinsic factors.

*cough* utopian *cough*

also Zealot, in that society, what would the non workers do. the lazy people, will they be put to death? or be opressed and forced into some sort of "labor camp"?

**enviro** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 4:27 am

and what about the sick or mentally challenged
we tried sending them to candada, but that didn't work to well

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**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 10:10 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

"Perfect" is subjective. My standards of a perfect economic system, and therefore society, is one in which the workers own and control the means of production directly. I.e communism. It has been put into practice and worked untiol destroyed by extrinsic factors.

what is better?

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 8:35 pm

Liche wrote:

also Zealot, in that society, what would the non workers do. the lazy people, will they be put to death? or be opressed and forced into some sort of "labor camp"?

No, as I've told you several times already - they'll be excluded from economy and will perhaps live on things like charity.

enviro wrote:

and what about the sick or mentally challenged
we tried sending them to candada, but that didn't work to well

Mentally challenged and sick people, for your surprise can still contribute economically. People objectively unable to participate in the economy will be sustained economically by the workers.

Tyrlop wrote:

what is better?

What is better in comparison to what?

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 9:37 pm

another quick question
does everyone get what the WANT or what they need?
how will jobs be decided?
why should someone who takes out the trash get the same pay/things as someone who is a doctor

communism relies to much on the good will of humans

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**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 9:46 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Tyrlop wrote:

what is better?

What is better in comparison to what?

what is better then perfect?

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 9:50 pm

enviro wrote:

another quick question
does everyone get what the WANT or what they need?
how will jobs be decided?
why should someone who takes out the trash get the same pay/things as someone who is a doctor

communism relies to much on the good will of humans

and who will decide at what time you will got to work? And when it ends?

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 11:22 pm

the goverment

will there be schools?
whil people have to go?
free healthcare?
no incetive

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**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Sun May 17, 2009 11:26 pm

but there is no government

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Mon May 18, 2009 3:29 am

Will this have a deficit on the economy? (and their for the countrys well being)

(also yea, Im pretty forgetful at times, [sarcasm]I should write down every thing I ask you[/sarcasm] since I have asked you the same thing many times)

**MightyObserver** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Mon May 18, 2009 3:41 am

enviro wrote:

the goverment

CoolKidX wrote:

but there is no government

2404 posts.

He's been here that long and doesn't know that.

Baffling.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Mon May 18, 2009 4:10 am

MightyObserver wrote:

enviro wrote:

the goverment

CoolKidX wrote:

but there is no government

2404 posts.

He's been here that long and doesn't know that.

Baffling.

he use to be somewhat of a troll (and some question that he still is).

**MightyObserver** · Subject: Re: Converting to Communism? Mon May 18, 2009 4:23 am

Liche wrote:

he use to be somewhat of a troll (and some question that he still is).

Half-troll

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