Hello and welcome to Parasky; but i have beef.

How in the hell can anyone (and i've had prior experience with this straw argument) downplay definition? Without it, we can't even talk to each other. If all of a sudden you change your "belief" of what a word means, you're effectively distorting our ability to communicate with words. If i say communism, and you think bureaucratic capitalism, there's no reason we should even be conversing because we've already confused the very basis of the conversation.

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Democracy, the democratic system, is not a system of government. It is a way with which one chosoes their government, and with what that government cooses their policies

And of course, though you fail to qualify this, you mean democracy as defined by statist doctrine, which is another attack on communication (i shouldn't have to explain this). Democracy has a meaning that is traced back to Greek (as i recall). Ethymology shouldn't be thrown to the wind just cos some elitist pricks decide they wanna use the word for their own ends.

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democracy si not itself a system of governemnt and in fact the republic is.

If you mean democracy is not a system of government because it is not heirarchical, then you'd be correct. Maybe you're having trouble imagining democracy given the statist organization of society that you've been raised under, but that doesn't make democracy unachievable, just hard to picture.

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"A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself."
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Gah spent like half an hour on my response and it auto logged me off RRRAAAGGGEEE

That is arguable, Cross. Our civilizations never had a dynamic language therefore we cannot know how it would work.

conceptual murder™

Ima remember that one Z. Definitely sums up the elite/intellectual culture's stance towards democracy since... always.

I thought poli pro's are meant to debate or something.

to be fair I did write a long response 2 days ago but the Internet gods ate it and I haven't felt like or had the time to write such a response again.


The point I am trying to make is when millions or even billions of people use a word incorrectly and ignorantly eventually it becomes reality. Even though Communism has not existed on a wide scale so far, The State-Capitalist systems who have claimed to be Communist have soiled the term. Communism is no longer Communism per se.