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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4225 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:08 pm | |
| Ya, we spoke of this some on myspace (I made a new myspace account I'll add you on there) and I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want to impose on Zachs personal information, and decided I'd let you decide whether or not to tell, since you guys were so close I was gonna see if you were gonna say anything. But I've talked to Zach and picked up he had anger problems. I also noticed he mostly talked about riots and protests, rather than how to actually achieve Communism. I honestly was shocked, but not really that surprised. He's pretty much screwed himself over. Last time I spoke with him, I asked if he was still an Anarchist, he replied "No man, Im union all the way!". I figured he meant he just wasn't going to choose one thing to label himself, but I now see he what he meant. After I said "Cool, so your still socialist" he said "Ugh, got to go" then blocked me. |
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Tyrlop Chairman of the WR Committee

Posts: 1773 Join date: 2008-06-01 Location: Denmark
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:42 pm | |
| sad to hear... maybe he could start that bungiee jumping? or els he will proberly end up as a hooligan  |
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:23 pm | |
| | Liche wrote: | Ya, we spoke of this some on myspace (I made a new myspace account I'll add you on there) and I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want to impose on Zachs personal information, and decided I'd let you decide whether or not to tell, since you guys were so close I was gonna see if you were gonna say anything.
But I've talked to Zach and picked up he had anger problems. I also noticed he mostly talked about riots and protests, rather than how to actually achieve Communism. I honestly was shocked, but not really that surprised. He's pretty much screwed himself over. Last time I spoke with him, I asked if he was still an Anarchist, he replied "No man, Im union all the way!". I figured he meant he just wasn't going to choose one thing to label himself, but I now see he what he meant. After I said "Cool, so your still socialist" he said "Ugh, got to go" then blocked me. |
Zach wants to belong to something and be different... i sometimes wonder if he ever truly believed in what he was saying... the least i can say is if it weren't for him i would never have been a socialist and now its almost like watching my mentor turn away from what he taught me_________________   |
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WeiWuWei New Party Member
Posts: 590 Join date: 2008-04-14 Age: 20 Location: Failida
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:54 am | |
| I sent him a message on Facebook. I want to talk to him and hear what he has to say. It's always sad to lose a comrade. _________________  |
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee

Posts: 1684 Join date: 2008-04-04 Age: 21 Location: Sisyphean Hell
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:12 pm | |
| ^^^ Agreed. I hadn't heard this, and i'll have to talk to Zach as well. If this is true, it's a sad day. Nice to have you back Alek. How did you find out about this? I thought you two weren't on speaking terms. _________________ "A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself." --Karl Polanyi--
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts: 4400 Join date: 2008-02-14 Location: Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:31 pm | |
| Ironic, I mean I saw beatnikzach as a intelectual(kinda) when he spoke his political views. Just wanted to say that, and welcome back Alek hope you will stay. _________________ "In war, there are no unwounded soldiers."--Jose Narosky "A pessimist is one who makes difficulties of his opportunities; an optimist is one who makes opportunities of his difficulties." --Reginald Mansell Eazy-er Said Than Dunn   |
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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mononokifool Experienced Party Member

Posts: 838 Join date: 2008-03-30 Age: 20 Location: Florida
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:12 am | |
| While we might not agree with his choice it is kind of low to post someones personal information without consent of that person. I don't agree with what he has done but he feels that he had no other choice to do this. When you have no money and no job and times are looking desperate people do things that they might not support. He knows now that he will have a place to sleep, food to eat, money in the bank, and money for college. In this situation it seems like its better to be encouraging that it will not always be this way than to make someone feel like the lowest of lows. I told him "dont do anything that you will regret," and he said he wont and wants to be an on base firer fighter. I know he will be in an imperialist military but he wont be doing dirty work for the government if he chooses that route. _________________  |
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Zeronos ZEK in siberian gulag

Posts: 244 Join date: 2008-07-03 Age: 16 Location: Tennessee
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:11 am | |
| | WeiWuWei wrote: | I sent him a message on Facebook. I want to talk to him and hear what he has to say.
It's always sad to lose a comrade. |
WWW, I demand a link to your Facebook.
Posthaste. |
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WeiWuWei New Party Member
Posts: 590 Join date: 2008-04-14 Age: 20 Location: Failida
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council

Posts: 2623 Join date: 2008-02-05 Age: 10 Location: bite the power
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:35 am | |
| you i might have not liked you guys....but i respected you this is sad...very very sad alek can we be cool or you still want to be cold....i dont come her often no more, but its your choice _________________ why do i need a sig
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council

Posts: 2623 Join date: 2008-02-05 Age: 10 Location: bite the power
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:54 am | |
| YAY ill try to stay out of trouble _________________ why do i need a sig
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee

Posts: 1684 Join date: 2008-04-04 Age: 21 Location: Sisyphean Hell
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:23 am | |
| Moved Alek, you have two of my books, yes? If you're done with them, send em out when you get a chance. _________________ "A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself." --Karl Polanyi--
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor

Posts: 408 Join date: 2008-05-06 Age: 17 Location: America
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5184 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: "Beatnickzach" Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:44 pm | |
| Evidently I'm somewhat late here. I just talked to Zach yesterday, although I had learnt about him joining the military from CKX almost a week ago. In fact it's been this event that has made me come back. I had been searching for slander reported to me by Zach but I didn't find stuff relating to this topic until now. I do agree with Mono, although I think it's a bit more complex than that in the case of Zach. Either way and as much as I hate that he's, at least seemingly, departed from our struggle his decision is to be respected. Whatever his reasons might be, they're valid. I heard he had been called "hypocrite" by some. To those: Joining the army doesn't make him a hypocrite. He's got an "easy way out of the toil" by joining the army and we all definitely need a way to substain ourselves economically. What better way to achieve it than by doing something as simple as joining the army in an imperialist nation? It helps you keep fit, gives you a steady financial base, the possibility to travel around the world and may provide you with quite interesting and valuable experiences. The only way he could be a hypocrite is by pointing his gun while on duty at his comrades. And in all honesty I don't believe he'd do something like that. Either way, I just wanted to put my unnecesary grain of salt here. This is a topic we shouldn't be really talking about. I won't tolerate slander against Zach. |
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