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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:53 pm

yeah i know

but i didn't realize i only have 39 now...XP
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:02 pm

Thats cause you stopped posting for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:26 pm

i almost regret protesting lol
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:58 pm

MarxistFreeman wrote:
i almost regret protesting lol


You went to the yesterdays protest in Oakland for Mumia, no? How was it?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:15 pm

It was the epitome of what a United front Protest SHOULD be

it was hundreds of people uniting for the same cause and DISCUSSING POLITICS.

I actually stopped for a bit and realized that everyone there was engaged in discussion. It was nice. We had a decent amount of speakers. I won some obama supporters over and talked to a lot of the youth and go them interested in checking out our marxist class series.

We had several Union speakers and we had between 400-500 organization endorsements worldwide. Then afterwards the people that were still interested walked over and had dinner and talked for an hour or so.

The day went perfectly...

Now we can only hope the Union members and reps that came will take Mumia's case in and encourage them to take it to the next level.

OH

AND my comrades invited me to go to the LA protest next week...ROADTRIP

did you hear about what our group did at the Philadelphia Obama rally?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:17 pm

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did you hear about what our group did at the Philadelphia Obama rally?
No, tell us. By the way, did you really gain supporters just from a protest? I didn't know that was possible, especially Obama supporters cause they're so obsessed with him like a deity or something.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:32 pm

yeah actually. Our rally came directly after an obama rally. It was an odd coincidence.

I got like 4 phone numbers and one of my class mates (who was a Hillary fan) agreed to start studying with us and doing work for mumia.

Pretty much everyone who came bout some of our marxist journals, books, or Workers vanguard, and a lot of people got subscriptions.

Now at the same time, the worshipers of Obama prolly don't even know about Mumia...So it was a combo of the Mumia fighters and the people that were vague supporters.

SO In Philadelphia Obama was campaigning and the SL/SYC there raised up a FREE MUMIA banner. The organizers of the rally tried to get us to take it down because Obama didn't support Mumia's case (in actuality, obama AND hillary SUPPORT the death penalty) and we said we will leave it up unless it's the police asking us to. They didn't call the police but they tried to Cover up the banner with an Obama banner and it cause like a mini protest to leave our banner alone. Mostly the youthful people at the rally got upset and started shouting to leave it alone.

NJNP-You KNOW that we are the ONLY ones still doing stuff about his case right?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:35 pm

Really? When I look at websites for other Trotskyist groups they all say "free mumia abolish the racist death penalty"
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:42 pm

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Really? When I look at websites for other Trotskyist groups they all say "free mumia abolish the racist death penalty"


the fake socialist groups have signed onto OUR program

thats OUR slogan and considering that we are the ONLY people still doing stuff on his case, they have endorsed our protest because they have to now.

Before that everyone else was rallying behind the NEW TRIAL slogan.

These same groups that have decided to join our united front program refused to actually show up because we criticized their new trial slogan.

Now i am not trying to make it seem like we own it, but we have been the only group that has drawn that distinct line of protest...
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:44 pm

Why don't they just jon your group? Question
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:57 pm

cause they get butthurt and can't separate themselves from their politics

for example

Jeff Mackler is the leader of the MOB-the mobilization to free mumia

and Mackler said that Mumia should be free within a year if he gets a new trial...so when the same courts that framed him up denied his request for a new trial...he said he was surprised

and because WE criticized him for doing that he refused to participate in our united front protest and said
A) united-front protests alienate people and they dont want to talk politics
and
B)We would make their group look bad...ITS A FUCKING FREE MUMIA GROUP

anyway...since we are the only ones that are still defending him

they endorsed but did not attend
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:03 am

Lol pansies.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:46 pm

MarxistFreeman wrote:
The day went perfectly...

Now we can only hope the Union members and reps that came will take Mumia's case in and encourage them to take it to the next level.


That's cool, but i wouldn't get your hopes up.

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AND my comrades invited me to go to the LA protest next week...ROADTRIP


That's tight, have fun.

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did you hear about what our group did at the Philadelphia Obama rally?


Well, now i did. And screw the cops, they can't do shit. If i've learned anything from my time at anarchist protests and marches, it's that the cops are just a bunch of panty-waists when you stare them down and don't give in to idle threats.

And ya, i know the ICL is the only group actually active. I had one of its members send me a copy of a petition that was written up, and i got about two hundred signatures. I almost got decked because i accidentily asked a skin-head. I didn't think he was a skin-head, i thought he was just bald, haha.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:05 pm

Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:31 pm

^ that's def not spam.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:59 am

oh like protests in L.A fall into the topic of how green is good or bad
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PostSubject: Re: green   Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:31 am

environmentalist wrote:
oh like protests in L.A fall into the topic of how green is good or bad


The topic of conversation evolved. If you're upset about it, tell the admin to merge the topic elsewhere.

Though...

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^ that's def not spam.


that's spam too.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:32 am

SO is that affraid And so is this. SPam is fun, if you do it in moderation.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:32 am

joke and dude if it stems off why dont you ask the admin to change it
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PostSubject: Re: green   Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:34 am

i mean even if Mumia doesn't win the helping hand of the labor power

atleast we won people over to the fight for black liberation

atleast we exposed people to struggle...

Not a gain by any stretch of the imagination compared to Mumia's death (there will be blood) but...it's all the capitalists have left us with...
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