"Whoops"

**Liche** · Subject: "Whoops" Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:38 am

One of Obamas Adminastrators referred to Conservatives as "Crackers" and stated that he believes 911 was a conspiracy created by US Governement (when Al Queda claims resoponsibility).

What do you think of this? An Idiot, or someone just speaking there mind.

I agree the US could of prevented 911, but I cant bring myself to believe they did it themselves, Ive looked into several major conspiracy theories (and some minor ones) surrounding it, and they seemed like BS to me.

**WeiWuWei** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:09 am

The "cracker" thing is kind of funny, but it's also annoying because anyone who calls him out on it is going to be called a "racist."

I hate racism, but I also dislike bourgeois anti-racism.

Anyway.

No, I don't think 9/11 was orchestrated by the U.S. government, but I do think that there were certain warning signs that should have been heeded. Take, for example, Richard Clarke's warning memos to Condoleezza Rice months before 9/11 occurred. He knew that al-Qaeda was planning something.

It's not so much that they knew and did nothing about it, but that those who did know weren't listened to, mostly for political reasons.

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**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:49 pm

Yeah its very complicated to think the government did that, but yeah they mayeb could prevent it.

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**Black_Cross** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:21 pm

Liche wrote:

One of Obamas Adminastrators referred to Conservatives as "Crackers" and stated that he believes 911 was a conspiracy created by US Governement (when Al Queda claims resoponsibility).

What do you think of this? An Idiot, or someone just speaking there mind.

We're talking about Van Jones? I don't remember hearing anything about him calling people crackers, and i'm pretty sure the petition he signed was to investigate the governments role in 9/11, not that it was necessarily a conspiracy.

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I agree the US could of prevented 911, but I cant bring myself to believe they did it themselves, Ive looked into several major conspiracy theories (and some minor ones) surrounding it, and they seemed like BS to me.

Why? There are far too many things -- very unlikely -- that happened for it to be mere coincidence.

http://www.ae911truth.org/techarts.php

I would read some of those, or watch the blueprint for truth video.

And there's no reason to engage cointelpro agents to discredit the truth movement if their arguments held absolutely no credence.

Anyway, Van Jones is a pretty good guy, and the White House should be ashamed of its apathy.

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**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:25 pm

And watch Zeitgeist.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:16 am

No were talking about someone else, he just came in to the news a few days ago.

**Black_Cross** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:18 pm

What's this guys name? I think i woulda heard if someone within Obama's administration said something racist.

I've heard that from idiotic Black Panthers who honestly believe Obama represents the minority agenda Rolling Eyes

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:31 am

hmm interesting maybe it is Van Jones.

But did you hear Van Jones denied being part of that petition when being interviewed by ABC?

edit- Yea, it was Van Jones

**Black_Cross** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:13 pm

I heard something. But i haven't seen a quote in which he explicitly denies he signed the petition.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:33 pm

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/controversial-obama-administration-official-denies-being-part-of-911-truther-movement-apologizes-for.html

this is were I saw it.

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**Black_Cross** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:40 pm

Liche wrote:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/controversial-obama-administration-official-denies-being-part-of-911-truther-movement-apologizes-for.html

this is were I saw it.

Well, it doesn't seem to say he denied signing it, but rather denied agreeing with it... which might well be worse, considering it shows his lack of fortitude.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: "Whoops" Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:58 pm

well, I didnt think of that. I just assumed by not agreeing with it he meant he didnt sign it.