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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:11 am

Yeah, as though beans and nuts were EVERWHERE.

Oh, and we used mammoth for other things, too. The bones. And of course the skin. We burned the fat. And I won't start with all the millions if urban legends of aphrodesiacs that have still persisted.

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:14 am

still HUMANS WERE BORN TO BE PLANT EATEARS
we evolved from apes, who also eat plants(or insects)
the circulatory system-not meant for meat
the fat disposal system(not meant for meat)
its obvoius from our nascestors and many of todays problems

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:22 am

enviro wrote:

protien is found it anything
ofcourse not in quantaties

Quantities are important. There is .3mg of protein in a cup of tea which means it has a negligible content of protein against the 24,000mg of protein found in 100g of Beef tenderloin.
You'd need to eat 3kg of Cantaloupes in a single meal just to get what 100g of Beef can give you protein-wise. You'd need 6 cans of beans to get the same.

And... where do you plan to get creatine from? Eggs? They have mopre cholesterol than meat mind me telling you.

envirus wrote:

i know of good and bad, but mostly bad is in meat

Good and bad are subjective terms.

An ectomorphic weight-lifter can hardly develop muscles without consuming meat. A vegan weight-lifter will have a fucking hard time in comparison to an onmivorous one.

enviro wrote:

i meant that the blood clotting mechanism, the one used to clott outside cuts, can also start clumping on a cholersotrol build up in the artery or vein, casuing a total stop of blood

So? There are several foods that provide with chemicals that reverse this.

enviro wrote:

also humans could have eaten nuts and legumes, full of protien and fat

Not if they wanted to be strong and develop, that's for sure. Once again, meat suffices dietary needs much better than legumes and/or nuts, not only for having considerably greater ammounts of protein, but because it also has creatine.

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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:54 am

Well said, Zeal.

Oh, and we aren't supposed to eat meat?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7922120.stm

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: prozac Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:18 am

i dint not say not to eat meat, i siad we we(from an evolutionary stanpoint) were not evolved to eat it

we evoled form monkees, whose diet is mostly fruits, so we should have a body not made to handle as much meat.

i am not saying we shouldent
and i didnt say that all foods had the same quantity

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:55 am

enviro wrote:

i dint not say not to eat meat, i siad we we(from an evolutionary stanpoint) were not evolved to eat it

On which grounds can you say that "we were not evolved to eat it" (disregarding that said statement is ambigous as hell)

enviro wrote:

we evoled form monkees, whose diet is mostly fruits, so we should have a body not made to handle as much meat.

False premise. Plus gorillas, for example, do eat meat.

enviro wrote:

i am not saying we shouldent

You're constatly implying it.

enviro wrote:

and i didnt say that all foods had the same quantity

You suggested we could substitute meat with other sources a statement against which I presented an arguement.

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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:00 am

Don't get me wrong. Life is life, so meat is wrong. But I like it too much. Talk to me when a cow becomes sentient.

And as Zeal said. Hell, Gorillas have been known to resort to cannibalism in tough times. We can easilly digest meat, and it doesn't help that most vegetarians are missing a LOT of body mass due to lack of protien. Yo CAN get it from beans, but again, more from meat.

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:26 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Don't get me wrong. Life is life, so meat is wrong. But I like it too much. Talk to me when a cow becomes sentient.

Life is life and in the food chain some are producers, others are 1st degree consumers and others are 2nd degree consumers, we're second degree consumers.

Since I, like everyone here (hopefully) have great respect for life the reason for which I'm completely against wasting any single part of the animal killed (or exploited) to suffice our needs, not only dietary. And I'm of course against unnecesary killings and those that are made with excess pain.

But, we to consume animals.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

And as Zeal said. Hell, Gorillas have been known to resort to cannibalism in tough times. We can easilly digest meat, and it doesn't help that most vegetarians are missing a LOT of body mass due to lack of protien. Yo CAN get it from beans, but again, more from meat.

Well said, Tyrong. Worthy addition to the point.

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: prozac Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:56 pm

dude i love me some good beef jerky
but it has been shown by our
addiction to sweet tasting foods
blood system
that were were dervied to eat plants

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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:30 pm

I don't quite understand you. Our addiction to sweet tasting foods, blood system? Literally, you jumped there. Can you repeat that?

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:06 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

I don't quite understand you. Our addiction to sweet tasting foods, blood system? Literally, you jumped there. Can you repeat that?

As I understand he's basically saying that our addiction to sweet tasting foods proves we're meant to eat plants...

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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:19 pm

But it doesn't. That, I think protien but I'm likely wrong, in meat is itelf sweet tasting because it converts to sugar in our mouth. So if wanting sweet things means anything, it means we're CANIVORES.

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Will stop her.
Even if I have to destroy the universe to do it!"
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**enviro** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:44 pm

WHo said that our addiction to sweet tasting foods mean we eat plants??
you are drawing conclusions

i said we are meant to eat sweets, and plants
not we do
but are ment to

all the berries that were sweet(in cavemen days) were okay(well not all)
and most of the sour foods we posionus

so people who ate sweet things surivided. ETc.
we were bread from mainly(and remember i say MAINLY) hebervores, now we are whatever, but our bodies are still used to mostly a plant diet

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:46 pm

We like sweet stuff because they bring carbohydrates which we use to produce energy, that's why we like them. How is that linked to consuming or not meat?

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**Tyrong Kojy** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:55 pm

We ate sweet htings, and meat is sweet. Ish.

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: prozac Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:27 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

We ate sweet htings, and meat is sweet. Ish.

That remembers me an anecdote:

One day I was going to put some meat to my recently-acquired grill. It was a delicious 350g cut, I don't remember its name in English though.

Anyway, I usually prepare those cuts by grinding a tablespoon of salt and then spraying a fraction of it over both sides of the meat and leave it marinating for a couple of hours.

That day I had to rush somewhere so I asked my mom to do that. What a mistake from my part. I went to that place where I stayed nearly 1 hour and a half. When I came back I saw the meat, supposedly, ready to cook.

I grilled it. While grilling it a little bit of salt started emerging from the tissue and got burnt producing orange stains on the grill. I didn't give it much importance though. And then I served. When I took the first bite I felt like if my tongue shrank; it was too damn salty. I finished it because I wouldn't waste such a fine cut but also made my mother have some as a punishment for her spoiling of the meat.

I was a bit hungry still so I grilled myself a burger. My tongue was so affected by how salty the previous cut of meat was that the meat of the hamburger tasted as sweet as sugar...

Yeah, meat tends to be sweet!

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:42 pm

Prozac is a depression drug?

**enviro** · Subject: Re: prozac Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:40 pm

yeah
you didnt know that?

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