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Comrade Pollett
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|  Subject: Adolf hitler  Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:00 pm | |
| i think we all know the answer
but it's about time someone did this |
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Ryom
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| he was a bit fucked up, but some if his ideas was good, altho the Antisemitism didnt justify it
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revolution
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:08 pm | |
| penis.
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Ryom
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:10 pm | |
| and dont forget the SS, cheeky bastards
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mononokifool
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:19 pm | |
| Umm he fooled the nation into thinking they were striving for the workers, but in fact he was a fascist with his own personal vendetta
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:34 pm | |
| Hitler? lol. I personally don't have anything against him but yeah, he really was a jerky bastard. The SS and what not.
As for the Jews. To be honest, I hold absolutely NO sympathy toward them at all. It was their own problem, and they got MORE than enough justice served to them. But that's not the problem. What's the problem is that, while everybody is all "OMG, Nazis!" and continuing to arrest and imprison former Nazis, other war criminals (such as Imperial Japanese) are left free to go.
And even the Nazis were terrorified of what the Imperial Japanese did to prisoners and "muruta".
Sorry for sounding like an ass, but the Jews simply need to stop pointing out Nazi war criminals and getting more *ka-ching* in the process. The false state of Israel isn't doing much good either...
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Ryom
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:47 pm | |
| it was not up to Hitler to practice justice, against anyone. well arent Imperial Japanese only in japan ? while Nazis are all over this world, i dont hold sympathy to the Jews but to the small children who where gassed because of their religion.
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:11 am | |
| | why the ****** ask??? |
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Zealot_Kommunizma
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:16 am | |
| | kahnsguard wrote: | | I think he was a good guy at first, but things turned ugly when Gestapo Zyklon B came into the equation. |
Yeah no idea can be better than enslaving and destroying as many nations as you can to make your own nation wealthy. |
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:18 am | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | kahnsguard wrote: | | I think he was a good guy at first, but things turned ugly when Gestapo Zyklon B came into the equation. |
Yeah no idea can be better than enslaving and destroying as many nations as you can to make your own nation wealthy. |
isn't that what the us dose? |
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revolution
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:59 am | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | kahnsguard wrote: | | I think he was a good guy at first, but things turned ugly when Gestapo Zyklon B came into the equation. |
Yeah no idea can be better than enslaving and destroying as many nations as you can to make your own nation wealthy. |
isn't that what the us dose? |
You got it.
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Diogritor
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:03 am | |
| | Not even the worst Genocide that has happened. I voted just Evil because other then pissing the world off and mass murder he did bring Germany out of the depression 5 years earlier then everyone else and knew how to talk to a crowd. |
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:49 am | |
| | Diogritor wrote: | | Not even the worst Genocide that has happened. I voted just Evil because other then pissing the world off and mass murder he did bring Germany out of the depression 5 years earlier then everyone else and knew how to talk to a crowd. |
10 years earlyer and WW2 is the reson the world boomed. |
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Steel
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:45 pm | |
| | Quote: | | he was a bit fucked up, but some if his ideas was good, altho the Antisemitism didnt justify it |
| Quote: | | I think he was a good guy at first, but things turned ugly when Gestapo Zyklon B came into the equation. |
What the FUCK!? I think I might be in the wrong group here.
Seriously, from a socialist point of view he was NOT a good guy at ANY POINT, and some of his ideas were NOT good. They weren't even fucking mediocre, and even if you only go on the rhetoric (as opposed to the actions of the NSDAP in power) he was still fucking shit.
Hitler was very firmly anti-working class, and should be recognised and damned as such by any socialist worth their salt, he provided huge profits to German heavy industry at the expense of the German working class and were it not for some very 'cunning' manoeuvring with currency and bonds Germany would not have recovered, it would have sunk into inflation, with the German workers being hit hardest. Fascism has always been, and will only ever been, in the interests of the upper classes and Heavy Industry in particular. As a nationalist ideal which aims to make its party just another support of the state fascism is diametrically opposed to the interests of the international working class, and by extension all legitimate socialists.
I am shocked that self professed socialists can not see this, when the average German could. “Fascism and Big Business” by Daniel Guerin. Read it.
| Quote: | | As for the Jews. To be honest, I hold absolutely NO sympathy toward them at all. It was their own problem, and they got MORE than enough justice served to them. |
So what if Jews were overrepresented in the tiny section of the capitalist class that the Nazi's disapproved of? How does that justify anything?
Surely you cannot believe that every Jew in Europe was a fucking banker? Any socialist who applauds the extermination of ANY section (whether real or imaginary) of the working class should take the time to reconsider who's side they are on. Anyone who believes that simply through belonging to a section of the capitalist class means that they deserve 'justice' served to them in such a brutal fashion needs their head examined. William Morris was a bourgeoisie but was probably one of the best Socialists in Britain at the beginning of the last century, should he have had justice served to him?
| Quote: | | other war criminals (such as Imperial Japanese) are left free to go. |
The Japanese war criminals would have been free to go whatever happened, whether Nazi Germany was squeaky clean or a living nightmare, they bought their freedom (and their lives) with research carried out on British, Chinese, Australian and US POW's.
Although I do not believe in 'good' and 'evil' as such terms are relative to the times you live and the value you hold, I chose “He was the worlds most evil man” since he and the regime he represents were probably the worst criminals in living memory. |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:17 am | |
| I actually KNOW the Japanese offered the files to the Americans for immunity. To the Japanese, business and power has ALWAYS overshadowed the will of the people. They simply don't care. Never have, never will. They've killed over an estimated 20 million compared to Nazi Germany's 12 million.
Japan does NOT have an excuse to gloss over it's textbooks.
Even today, there are Jews are STILL demanding the payment of money from Germany. Those are the Jews I absolutely detest. They will do anything to get money, even if it means blaming present-day Germany for still being "Nazis" in some twisted way. That, in my eyes, is a twisted justification of the Holocaust.
I do not deny the Holocuast happened but I do absolutely HATE all the attention it recieves. It's all the world talks about and takes action against whenever it's brought up in the slightest.
Hitler is only perceived as the "world's greatest mass murderer" simply because of all the biased Western media attention give him. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more.
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Renegade_Kautsky
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:13 am | |
| I think it's pretty much unanimous that was was an evil dude... 
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Cyprian Uljanow
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:52 am | |
| Aside from being a political fuck off, he did knew his ropes in dragging out the Country out of depression, and piratical bankrupt.
But overall
lulz * votes for He was the worlds most evil man* |
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Steel
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:09 am | |
| | Quote: | | I actually KNOW the Japanese offered the files to the Americans for immunity. |
Then you should have concluded that their not being bought to justice had nothing to do with the Nazi regime surely?
| Quote: | | Even today, there are Jews are STILL demanding the payment of money from Germany. Those are the Jews I absolutely detest. |
Then it should have been said, and it should also be recognised that these Jews happen to be a handful of rich Americans, rather than the working class Jews who will have overwhelmingly made up the victims of the Holocaust.
If anything I would suggest they are attacked as being harmful to these holocaust victims, who are being essentially ripped of. I was watching a documentary recently, those demanding reparations are actually guilty of overestimating the number of survivors to enrich themselves (IIRC, the survivors in Belarus was estimated at 10 times its actual number). This is also harmful because it allows holocaust deniers to claim that the extermination was not as complete as it was (and therefore not an extermination).
| Quote: | | Hitler is only perceived as the "world's greatest mass murderer" simply because of all the biased Western media attention give him. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more. |
The fact that he carried out the most efficient, complete, industrialised extermination ever has nothing to do with it? |
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Ryom
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:48 am | |
| | Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote: |
Hitler is only perceived as the "world's greatest mass murderer" simply because of all the biased Western media attention give him. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more. |
ive meet people who had family that was thrown in the KZ. camps ive seen the museums and the memorials, he was the "world's greatest mass murderer".
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mattabesta
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| | Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:49 pm | |
| | Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote: | I actually KNOW the Japanese offered the files to the Americans for immunity. To the Japanese, business and power has ALWAYS overshadowed the will of the people. They simply don't care. Never have, never will. They've killed over an estimated 20 million compared to Nazi Germany's 12 million.
Japan does NOT have an excuse to gloss over it's textbooks.
Even today, there are Jews are STILL demanding the payment of money from Germany. Those are the Jews I absolutely detest. They will do anything to get money, even if it means blaming present-day Germany for still being "Nazis" in some twisted way. That, in my eyes, is a twisted justification of the Holocaust.
I do not deny the Holocuast happened but I do absolutely HATE all the attention it recieves. It's all the world talks about and takes action against whenever it's brought up in the slightest.
Hitler is only perceived as the "world's greatest mass murderer" simply because of all the biased Western media attention give him. That's it. Nothing less, nothing more. |
umm nazi germany. 6million jews and 15million other minoratyes that counts up to 21million |
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