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| Should he be sent to Gulag? | | Yes | | 22% | [ 4 ] | | No, but I don't like him | | 33% | [ 6 ] | | Undecided | | 5% | [ 1 ] | | No, I like him | | 22% | [ 4 ] | | No, he's actualy admirable | | 16% | [ 3 ] |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:01 pm | |
| Pretty famous figure. Destroyed USSR with his reforms to put it simply. |
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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee

Posts: 1376 Join date: 2008-07-23 Age: 18
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:06 pm | |
| No, but I don't like him I think he tried to rebuild the Union's economy and end this idiotic gun race, but at the end he failed pitifully |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| i feel the same he is a realistic man _________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:37 pm | |
| For me he's a retarded that deliberately destroyed USSR. If I had him in front of me I think I wouldn't feel remorse for beating him, even inspite of his age. He opened USSR to western influence and markets allowing imperialists to ravage the USSR. He is responsible for the destruction of the USSR and for the subsequent tragedies as well. I hate him inmensely. |
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Comrade Pollett Experienced Party Member

Posts: 923 Join date: 2007-10-14 Age: 16 Location: Newfoundland and labrador
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:43 pm | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:02 am | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | For me he's a retarded that deliberately destroyed USSR. If I had him in front of me I think I wouldn't feel remorse for beating him, even inspite of his age.
He opened USSR to western influence and markets allowing imperialists to ravage the USSR. He is responsible for the destruction of the USSR and for the subsequent tragedies as well. I hate him inmensely. |
do you know what wnet on in the ussr and the eastren block?? are you like brainwashed or something???_________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:23 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | do you know what wnet on in the ussr and the eastren block?? are you like brainwashed or something??? |
Yes, I know, much better than you actually and counting with first-hand experiences on the topic. Mikhail Gorbachyov instead of solving or helping solve these problems, increased them.
No wonder that when that asshole tried to run for president he got around 1% of votes and was even punched in the face by a Russian citizen.
| Comrade Pollet wrote: | | he was a great man! |
What?! Why? |
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Comrade Pollett Experienced Party Member

Posts: 923 Join date: 2007-10-14 Age: 16 Location: Newfoundland and labrador
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:27 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | do you know what wnet on in the ussr and the eastren block?? are you like brainwashed or something??? |
Yes, I know, much better than you actually and counting with first-hand experiences on the topic. Mikhail Gorbachyov instead of solving or helping solve these problems, increased them.
No wonder that when that asshole tried to run for president he got around 1% of votes and was even punched in the face by a Russian citizen.
| Comrade Pollet wrote: | | he was a great man! |
What?! Why? | he tried to fix a really bad system, and Boris took advantage of his situation. |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:50 pm | |
| | Comrade Pollett wrote: | | he tried to fix a really bad system, and Boris took advantage of his situation. |
Do you seriously think he tried to fix that system? He was even awarded by Reagan.
The Soviet system was pretty weakened and Gorbachyov delivered the fatal blow to it. |
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Comrade Pollett Experienced Party Member

Posts: 923 Join date: 2007-10-14 Age: 16 Location: Newfoundland and labrador
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:51 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | Comrade Pollett wrote: | | he tried to fix a really bad system, and Boris took advantage of his situation. |
Do you seriously think he tried to fix that system? He was even awarded by Reagan.
The Soviet system was pretty weakened and Gorbachyov delivered the fatal blow to it. | new freedoms came with Gorbie |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:57 pm | |
| | Comrade Pollett wrote: | | new freedoms came with Gorbie |
The freedom to kneel down to west. Unstability, cultural decadence, nationalist sprouts. |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts: 4426 Join date: 2008-02-14 Location: Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:58 pm | |
| He was awsome =D! When USA try'd to get all the atention Mikahail came in and tottaly PWND usa (Not real ofcourse) |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:24 am | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | do you know what wnet on in the ussr and the eastren block?? are you like brainwashed or something??? |
Yes, I know, much better than you actually and counting with first-hand experiences on the topic. Mikhail Gorbachyov instead of solving or helping solve these problems, increased them.
No wonder that when that asshole tried to run for president he got around 1% of votes and was even punched in the face by a Russian citizen.
| Comrade Pollet wrote: | | he was a great man! |
What?! Why? |
he tryed reforms you know for the first 5 years or so till he realised it was impossable for this to go on._________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:07 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: |
he tryed reforms you know for the first 5 years or so till he realised it was impossable for this to go on. |
All he did with those "reforms" was to further weaken the Soviet system. |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:56 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
he tryed reforms you know for the first 5 years or so till he realised it was impossable for this to go on. |
All he did with those "reforms" was to further weaken the Soviet system. |
how can make the soviet system wores???????_________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4243 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:50 pm | |
| I don't like him, but I don't think he is bad enough for the gulag. It would be like arresting a janitor that worked at EnRon. He was just a foolish man...like some one who becomes a janitor and works at a place like EnRon. |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:13 pm | |
| | Liche wrote: | I don't like him, but I don't think he is bad enough for the gulag.
It would be like arresting a janitor that worked at EnRon.
He was just a foolish man...like some one who becomes a janitor and works at a place like EnRon. |
so you would wrathere live with the soviet union and risk of nuclear attack wrthere than no soviet union and no risk at all??_________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 4243 Join date: 2008-01-29 Age: 16 Location: USA-Virginia
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:22 pm | |
| No, I just don't blame the underlings. That is like arresting the guy that drives the getaway van and letting the bank robbers get away. |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts: 5209 Join date: 2007-12-06 Age: 21 Location: Mexico/Russia/Worl
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:26 am | |
| | mattabesta wrote: |
how can make the soviet system wores??????? |
Opening it to foreign markets and not adressing the real problems. |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council

Posts: 3857 Join date: 2007-12-23 Age: 15 Location: Iceland
 | Subject: Re: Mikhail Gorbachyov Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:36 pm | |
| | Zealot_Kommunizma wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
how can make the soviet system wores??????? |
Opening it to foreign markets and not adressing the real problems. |
it being closed WAS the problem_________________ stos wrote: I'm with the left commies on this one. I'm not back I'm just bored to death. ''Any society that would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.'' - Benjamin Franklin   |
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