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Love is an illusion of the ruling class

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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:37 am
I am totally for sexual freedom?

I have sex?

I have girls that i care a great deal about and make sure they are happy?
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:39 am
MarxistFreeman wrote:
I am totally for sexual freedom?

I have sex?

I have girls that i care a great deal about and make sure they are happy?

Antisexual is a guy who is totally against sex/love. Your post reminds me of one Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:42 am
I am not against strong feelings for anyone

I am against the use of "love" as a term and the random justifications and definitions of it.

I am against people demanding a monopoly on the best part of a person...
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:26 am
MarxistFreeman wrote:
Im not sure that person was with them and if so i am sure they were admonished for it. I have been admonished for shouting things against Obama when i was on a paper sale. They told me that isn't their politics.

They always enter class collaborationist rallies (like the one you went to) ready for polemics and debate about what is the best strategy and introduced a marxist perspective.

I MET the spartacists at an anti-war rally and I was carrying a sign that said BUSH/CHENEY OUT
TROOPS OUT
DEMOCRATS IN

and one of them challenged my perspective on the democrats and asked me what that would really entail.

been with them ever since.

Have you READ Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky?

I am reading that now...


Yes I am familiar with Lenin's piece on Kautsky. I know how Lenin insists that Kautsky would betray the proletarian revolution via political collaboration with bourgeois democratic parties. I've also read Lenin's wider criticism/s against reformist socialists because they "try to build a new society within the shell of the old" etc. But like I have said many times, I am not a Leninist.

That said I hold no delusions that the democrats are the answer to the problems which face the US. When you look at the past gains the US made in equality (civil rights,etc.) , it was usually because they're was a mass people's movement. Republicans completely disregard these, but democrats can push changes through if (to use a cliche') the people lead and the leaders follow.

Also, it's pretty obvious that I was at least familiar with "Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky" because my forum name is "Renegade Kautsky" not "Karl Kautsky".
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:31 am
No civil rights were gained because the ruling class could no longer ignore the violence and had to quell it in order to avoid a revolutionary situation.

And now look, those same civil rights gains are either being pulled back or people claim they are proof the playing field is level.

Slavery was abolished through violence and civil rights legislation was won from the blood of many.

plus I asked if you READ it. cover to cover.
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:25 am
Ideed, it is a complicated thing, love. A biological trick to propogate the species. But that in of itself means it is there. It's origins are moot. All thought is but chemical and electrical discharges and exchanges in the brain. But this does not mean you do not think. It does not mean you are not "real". God is real to some. That is their perception. If another does not precieve Him/Her/It to be real, does that make Them any less real to the first person? This does not change what reality is, even if reality is perceived differently by different people. Likewise, just because love is but a simple trick of nature does not change the fact that it is there.

Sometimes I scare myself. He, he, he.
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Will stop her.
Even if I have to destroy the universe to do it!"
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:20 pm
wow you just opend my eyes!
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:41 pm
dude...matt go away

and someone delete this
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PostSubject: Re: Love is an illusion of the ruling class   Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:54 pm
MarxistFreeman wrote:
dude...matt go away

and someone delete this


ok adminino deleto, pronto!
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