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revolution
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Riddler
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|  Subject: Re: No more offensive rap  Wed May 28, 2008 3:55 am | |
| Rap sucks. No offence.
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Blackartviper
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Age : 19
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Location : Germany/Hell
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Wed May 28, 2008 12:23 pm | |
| | I dislike this kind of musik too (more because there are only rhymes and not enough instrumentals for my taste-I mean come on! Rap consists only of some monotonic synthesizer beats). But it is a form of art and in my opinion (as stated on one of my other posts) art has to be free from all bounds of moral, ethic or religious restrictions. As long as they do not stuff IRL they rap about i do not care. |
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revolution
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Wed May 28, 2008 1:35 pm | |
| | Riddler wrote: | | Rap sucks. No offence. |
I don't really like it that much either, but I like some stuff, like Public Enemy. |
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Black_Cross
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Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu May 29, 2008 1:59 am | |
| I like rap, but i agree that it gets on my nerves when i hear these people who could be such a great help in revolutionary action making these douche bag statements about race, money, and violence for the sake of violence.
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Watermelon
ZEK in siberian gulag
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:19 pm | |
| people who hate rap are racist
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:46 pm | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | | people who hate rap are racist |
Says the Stalinite. LOL.
Anyway, I dislike most rap too (especially today's American rap) BUT.
This one tends to stick by me. :3c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmoQovKIRCI
I love so fly and JC. They make a GREAT team! ^-^
Now back with the DJMAX!
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Watermelon
ZEK in siberian gulag
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:06 am | |
| | Quote: | | Says the Stalinite. LOL. |
Last time you said that, I asked you why, and you said because I supported revolution instead of "peaceful reform," and I was opposed to family. You said Marx would never say that. Then I gave you wuotes from Marx where he said that. Then you said he was joking. Then I said he obviously wasn't. You never responded. YOu have no choice but to admit that you are antimarxist.
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:39 am | |
| Joking? Wut no! >.< I think, while Marx called for it definitely, he just never meant to be taken literally in an extremeist way. That's all.
Stalinite.  Everybody here seems to agree that you are one, expect you. pwn I say?
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Watermelon
ZEK in siberian gulag
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:45 am | |
| he didnt meant for it to be taken literally. o really. why would you explain in many pages, in high detail, why something is bad, but you dont mean it literally when you say its bad. that makes perfect sense.
| Quote: | | Everybody here seems to agree that you are one, expect you. pwn I say? |
argumentum ad populum
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
Experienced Party Member
Age : 17
Joined : 03 Feb 2008
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Location : The Circle of Flow
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:57 am | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | he didnt meant for it to be taken literally. o really. why would you explain in many pages, in high detail, why something is bad, but you dont mean it literally when you say its bad. that makes perfect sense.
| Quote: | | Everybody here seems to agree that you are one, expect you. pwn I say? |
argumentum ad populum |
In response to you first question, it's the 21st century. Cappies have nukes now and legions of militarized men and women. All politically indoctorined to believe in capitalism in the name of "freedom and democracy".
Tell me what would happen if America's population (by some MIRACLE) went all socialist and decided to take up arms? Would the army tolerate that? Would the White House boys and CIA stand up for it?
HELL NO!
They first will nuke the living sh!7 outta you, then send in tanks and air strikes to cut off whatever backup and supplies you have, and finally, they will send in troops to kill, pillage, and rape you and your families to death. And they will do all that in the name of "freedom and democracy"!
Marx's policies may have helped in HIS days, but if he was still alive today, he pretty much would hide for a bit and plan things out.
Reform may be slow, but at least it won't draw huge attention to you.
Secondly, that's "argumentive and". And your a Stalinist quite SIMPLY because of this.
Stalin forced others to follow "his way of communism". Here, you are arguing that "Marx is right. He is ALWAYS right and no exception".
No wate, that sounds more Orwellian to me. Sry...
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mononokifool
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:27 am | |
| | Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote: |
Marx's policies may have helped in HIS days, but if he was still alive today, he pretty much would hide for a bit and plan things out.
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you obviously have never read marx. the first page of the manifesto says and i quote "It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself."
Read up, you are not a marxist and you should not argue with people about it when you dont know. there ARE other kinds of communism but its clear that marxism isnt for you.
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Riddler
Hero of Socialist Labor
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:53 am | |
| | Watermelon wrote: | | people who hate rap are racist |
WTF? If I don't like rap, that doesn't means that I dislike it because of the black rappers 
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:05 pm | |
| | mononokifool wrote: |
you obviously have never read marx. the first page of the manifesto says and i quote "It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself." |
Monono, I have read Marx's Communist Manifesto. The only problem was, I read the short version of it. So maybe I didn't get all of what he said or simply misunderstood it, so what?
That's why I am here to understand communism and make my own views of it. I may not understand all of what Marx said, but truth be told, I'm sick and tired of Emy here degrading others for the sake of his "right" view of Marx. I'm sick of the capitalist system in USA and it's even worse in Korea. Worse in China, worse in Europe, worse in everywhere.
It's better than being a cappie or militant in anyway.
If America didn't store their nukes in Belgium and whatnot, Marx today would definitely be crying for cappie blood, yes. But that never happened, did it? America still has nukes and the country's all getting paranoid over Iran and N Korea because of some papers and media that say, "Oh, these countries pose a threat to the entire world because they have just one nuke and we have over 100000 nukes to protect you all! lololol"
What would Marx do if he was alive RIGHT NOW?
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Watermelon
ZEK in siberian gulag
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Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:21 pm | |
| | Quote: | | I read the short version of it |
If marx were alive hed be a marxist
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:31 pm | |
| | Watermelon wrote: |
If marx were alive hed be a marxist |
America has nukes? Does that not mean a thing to you?
And no duh, Marx would stick to his belief.
Anyway, this arguement going nowhere. Forget this. Back on subject.
Just why is rap offensive to some of you guys? I dislike it mostly because, well...it just SSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXS.
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Tyrlop
Hero of Socialist Labor
Joined : 01 Jun 2008
Posts : 457
Location : Denmark Copenhagen
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:14 pm | |
| | Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote: | | mononokifool wrote: |
you obviously have never read marx. the first page of the manifesto says and i quote "It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself." |
Monono, I have read Marx's Communist Manifesto. The only problem was, I read the short version of it. So maybe I didn't get all of what he said or simply misunderstood it, so what?
That's why I am here to understand communism and make my own views of it. I may not understand all of what Marx said, but truth be told, I'm sick and tired of Emy here degrading others for the sake of his "right" view of Marx. I'm sick of the capitalist system in USA and it's even worse in Korea. Worse in China, worse in Europe, worse in everywhere.
It's better than being a cappie or militant in anyway.
If America didn't store their nukes in Belgium and whatnot, Marx today would definitely be crying for cappie blood, yes. But that never happened, did it? America still has nukes and the country's all getting paranoid over Iran and N Korea because of some papers and media that say, "Oh, these countries pose a threat to the entire world because they have just one nuke and we have over 100000 nukes to protect you all! lololol"
What would Marx do if he was alive RIGHT NOW? |
your right, and i dont know what marx would have done now, but one thing is sure, we cant get from this to communism, of course we could just d... wtf was afk and forgot what to write, anyways
I <3 50 CENT
RAP = retards attemp peotry |
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Black_Cross
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Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:43 pm | |
| Why is it not poetry? Who's to say what poetry is? No one has a monopoly on the definition, so why can't rap just be a different kind of poetry. If it doesn't suit your pallet, just say that; no reason to call them retards.
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Black_Cross
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| | Subject: Re: No more offensive rap Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:47 pm | |
| Jazz Addixx is sick.
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