For the billionth time

**Liche** · Subject: For the billionth time Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:15 pm

Can one of the Admins please name the ANARCHO syndicalist union to Syndicalist union, so all syndicalist can graze there happily.

whos with me?

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well i think there are more anarcho syndicalists then monarcho syndicalists liche...

**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:04 am

but then all will be welcome.

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:10 am

It was proposed by anarcho-syndicalists. You should get more syndicalists to suport you into creating a general syndicalist union.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:14 am

I dont think any one realy opposes the idea of changing its name, the only thing is, all the syndicalists other than me are anarcho-syndicalist.

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:28 am

Liche wrote:

I dont think any one realy opposes the idea of changing its name, the only thing is, all the syndicalists other than me are anarcho-syndicalist.

So that's it, there's no need in changing the name unless they request it so and eventually there's no reason for which they'd want to.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:48 pm

ok, but am I still welcome there?

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:46 pm

Liche wrote:

ok, but am I still welcome there?

Probably you, but definitely not monarcho-syndicalist ideas.

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monarcho syndicalism is basically fascism...

**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:28 am

to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:36 am

Liche wrote:

to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...

Now bring an arguement please, preferably one that refutes Zach's assertion.

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**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:21 pm

dumb question, what is anarcho syndicalism. i know CNT and AIT but what does they stand for.

**Kenzu** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:53 pm

Alek4a is the current leader of the Anarcho Syndicalist Union.
I say if he proposes a name change, we will change the name.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:28 am

For overly claiming things to be fascsist. as all anarchists do.

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Liche wrote:

to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...

actually no, if you have read anything about syndicalism, you would have learned looooong ago that structural syndicalism was the basis for gentile's theory of fascism.
i speak for everyone when i say im sick of your belief hopping, read something by someone of the belief you seem to preach and get some fucking political ethos.

Tyrlop wrote:

dumb question, what is anarcho syndicalism. i know CNT and AIT but what does they stand for.

very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association

**Alek4A** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:30 pm

Liche wrote:

to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...

your not really a syndicalist. you shouldn't even be in the union. as admin, im removing you...

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**Tyrlop** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:32 pm

beatnikzach wrote:

very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association

thank you, but whats the diffrence from this and normal anarchism, or im completly lost.

**WeiWuWei** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:48 pm

Tyrlop wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association

thank you, but whats the diffrence from this and normal anarchism, or im completly lost.

Well, the difference is that Anarcho-Syndicalists use different kinds of organizations to produce and consume goods. They prefer trade unions, whereas AnComs prefer workers' councils, and Mutualists prefer the market, and the list goes on and on.

Most of the differences in Anarchism are purely for the difference in what kind of institutions they like. That's pretty much it. That's why I'm not so keen on picking sides, because they're all pretty good to me - and pretty similar, in my view.

EDIT: I should also mention that AnSyndies are more oriented to put an emphasis on things like workers' self-management before other principles. There's a large emphasis on the labor movement with the AnSyndies, probably moreso than with any other trend of Anarchism.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:04 am

"all are equal" Sad

so you kicked me out, because I am some how less equal then the rest.

and I dont know if its clear about the monarchist thing, but I was joking..

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: For the billionth time Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:06 am

Liche wrote:

"all are equal" Sad

so you kicked me out, because I am some how less equal then the rest.

You got kicked not as a matter of unequality but as matter of your lack of Syndicalisticity. You're not syndicalist according to them so why would you be inside a syndicalist group?

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