Who does political work offline?

Guest

so we have alot of communists/socialists on this site and i am curious about how many of us are actually active in any organizations.

The only true marxist group i have found has been the ICL, international communist league and i am currently doing work with their sections in the Bay Area.

how many of you guys are part of a Communist/socialist group offline?

anyone have a Worker's Vanguard subscription?

anyway
here is their site
http://spartacist.org/

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:14 pm

I am not a Trot. I see no reason for a vanguard.
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Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:23 pm

I am actually majoring in International Relations and plan to get into the government. I am in the process of joining the CPUSA right now as well
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Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:10 pm

I am looking for a funding from the cia to hack this site to my adtvantage.

Guest

are you kidding me?

you're a trotskyist and you see no reason for a vanguard?

Trotsky lead the ICL after Lenin's death...

what the hell are you talking about?

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:52 pm

Guest

and YOU call yourself a liberal democrat?

blindly supporting the CIA?
aside from pro programatically i doubt we have many varying political stances my friend.

The CIA is a specialized extension of the state that only furthers the oppressed's oppression. They have a nasty history of cracking down on blacks, especially during the civil rights movement.

Your precious democrats may peddle the illusion that they are the friends of the working people and blacks when their campaign is based on their reactionary stances against both...

A) the CIA doesn't find an internet forum of teens threatening to the capitalist state.

B) I'm sorry that as a capitalist democrat you wish to deny me my first amendment right. I think this is the epitome of the irrationality of capitalism

C) you're probably just like the rest of the blind "free tibet" rallyers that are trumpeting in the CIA in for counterrevolution when they have no clue that prior to the Chinese revolution women lived as slaves under the male priest lama class and ruled in a feudalist society. Life expectancy was 35, illiteracy ran rampant, and infant mortality rates were appalingly high. After the chinese revolution, slavery was abolished, modern medicine was delivered and life expectancy shot up to 65 and illiteracy rates declined because they DARED to free women. In the 60s the CIA founded the remaining bhuddist priests to ATTACK china. When the Chinese army revolted they were vilified as oppressive when in actuality they were defending their country. the "peaceful protests" are actually quite violent. While i don't defend the Beaurocratic regime, calling for counterrevolution is not the answer. A Political revolution that gives true democracy to the workers of china IS.

yet you are hostile towards me from having political beliefs you know nothing about.

oh the wisdom and leadership of the liberals is a great one

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:02 pm

Guest

ohh....my bad dude

so are you a stalinist? maoist? cliffite? what's up?

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:05 pm

Left communism ftw.
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Guest

is that not Marxism?

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:16 pm

It is but it's more libertarian than leninism.
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"The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization"
Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990

accept green or die!!!

my name is evyindur H haarde

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:17 pm

Guest

thank you jeiro

we are gonna be good friends... jocolor

and aren't libertarians capitalist reformists?

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:20 pm

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:21 pm

I meant libertarian as in politically less authoritarian, not libertarian as in capitalist or reformism. I detest reformism.
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"The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization"
Mikhail Gorbachev, June 8, 1990

accept green or die!!!

my name is evyindur H haarde

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:26 pm

Guest

yeah the panthers have more bite but it is misguided...the forging of a black nation? blacks in america do not constitute a nation...and the evaluate society in races rather than classes...and most panthers have been funneled into the capitalist democratic party...We have historically fought to win them over to a class struggle perspective and into the ICL because they are/used to be very advanced politically in their refusal to believe that the state can be reformed to stop racism which is why they practiced armed self defense...

And how do you think the revolution will come about without a worker's party pannekoek?

Subject: Re: Who does political work offline? Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:32 pm

Guest