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PostSubject: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:36 am

i do not believe so, as history has shown this to be false. morality can only exist under religion. without it, morality becomes relative, and people say things like murder is moral.
since socialism is the absense of religion, morality is not prevalent.

any leftist ideology denies morality. it's evident.

so really anyone who is not ultraconservative has no morals. do not say the nazis would refute this because they were socialists.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:45 am

Obvious troll is obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:54 am

i am not troll, i ask legit question now answer me.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:35 pm

calinis wrote:
i do not believe so, as history has shown this to be false. morality can only exist under religion. without it, morality becomes relative,

So morality is to remain static? I take it we'll still be murdering homosexuals the day the human race dies then?


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do not say the nazis would refute this because they were socialists.

And do you have anything to back this up appart from a guilty by association fallacy involving the full name of the Nazi party? Do you have some over whelmingly powerful new insight or evidence that proves just about every internationally respected historians view on the subject wrong? If not may I suggest you cease trying to peddle such revisionist shite before you lose all credibility with people here?
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:57 pm

actually it is pretty known well fact that the nazis support socialism
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:13 pm

calinis wrote:
actually it is pretty known well fact that the nazis support socialism

not good enough mate.
Especially since it is not true.

Generally speaking it is accepted that national socialism is not the same a socialism, and that the German capitalist class cooperated with the Nazis initially. (this is basically the view of the likes of Ian Kershaw, if i remember my AS history exam correctly).

Again any revolutionary new insights? In fact I'd settle for any explaination at all.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:13 pm

it is a wel known fact that you are a troll. nazis are capitalist.

were the proletariat ownig the means of production? i didnt think so. you dont evben know what that means. so quit talking baout something you know nothing about you dumb bitch.

and no i do not believe in morality. morality can not exist without religion. morality is idealist. you are idealist.

i hate pepul like you.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:13 pm

calinis wrote:
i am not troll, i ask legit question now answer me.

Your questions are not legitimate. Your either a troll or just extremely stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:06 am

Shush Oligarh - don't me a Melonist.

Elaborating - yes Socialism do indeed have Morals, in facts Socialism to be ironic is about SOCIALISEING, and seriously saying that a Fascist govarment like USSR is socialist thus Evil, is just narrow minded - and just before you go ranting - Prove me wrong in a legit way, if your knowledgeable in the filed you should know how a Communist and Fascist system works.

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:54 am

socialism do indeed NOT have morals. except for idealist pseudosocialists.

^case in point
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:58 am

Don't confuse Socialism with Melonism

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:59 am

dont confuse sotialism with sever mental retardation. ups to late.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:02 am

Your grade-school level assumptions based on no real facts make me giggle like a Japanese school girl.

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:07 am

you know nothing of marxism. you know nothing of historical materialism. you know nothing of marxian or luxemburgian economics. you just troll the forum pretending you are knowledgeable about socialist theory.

yeah i spelled all the words right so you know im getting serious
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:22 am

Me a Forum troll? Yeah coming from YOU thats just like the sweetest complement.

I don't give a shit about your Idea of Marxism, your a self centered, repugnant, intolerant, warmongering, kid-like twat. You have No Morals, you have no social backbone, your a posted AND attention whore, and you consist on chanting the same Stalinist bullshit over and over and over again.

Go back to your Capslock Forum and STAY there.

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:55 am

go back to jesus forum you idealist moralist.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:45 am

Jesus forum? Somebody actually run such a thing?


And Id only point you you git, that Morals are Social ethical standard applied not by anyone but by yourself, its the little thing that says killing people is wrong, and smashing someone's head in is probably not a good idea.

And If you ONLY apply those morals in your life becous your scared of being punished... that makes you not a Marxist, but a Socio-path

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:59 pm

i dont aply morals in my life. perid.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:25 pm

And thats one of the reasons, that you'll most likely end up in jail, for killing someone on a political talk show with a brick. And If not - you'll be detested not only by the capitalist society, but any self-respecting Communist party as well. Period.

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:36 pm

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
but any self-respecting Communist party as well. Period.

Agreed. Humans has ALWAYS had morals throughout history. Without morals, your just about as twisted as a...a...

....yeah...

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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:06 pm

only religious people have morals?

Wow...what about the kid raping priests? Or all the mass genocide killing off all those with different religions that is still going on to this day? What about attempting destroy the Constitution with all the religious rules they want forced upon people? The conservatives are a force holding the world back to the 1800's values of oppression.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:08 pm

calinis wrote:
i do not believe so, as history has shown this to be false. morality can only exist under religion. without it, morality becomes relative, and people say things like murder is moral.
since socialism is the absense of religion, morality is not prevalent.
any leftist ideology denies morality. it's evident.
so really anyone who is not ultraconservative has no morals. do not say the nazis would refute this because they were socialists.


Yes - We socialists are devoid of all morality -

In fact on November 3 of every year we engage in a satanic ritual called 'the harvest' where we sacrafice kidnapped Christian children to our dark lord Karl Marx.
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PostSubject: Re: do socialists have morals   Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:10 pm

hail satan! hail karl marx, the antichrist! hail teh wicked witch of teh west!
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