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PostSubject: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:28 am

is it just?
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:46 am

They invade countries they want to steal something from.

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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:10 am

and to answer your question, no. no its not.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:17 am

false. they invade other countries to help everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:24 am

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false. they invade other countries to help everyone.

ah, yes, of course, because its up to the untouchable smart holy white rich people of the first world to teach the stupid colored poor people what to do!
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:25 am

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false. they invade other countries to help everyone.
Nobody wants their "help" Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:28 am

its not about race its about destroying oppression and creating international security and yes they do want their help, unless they are terrorist scum
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:31 am

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its not about race its about destroying oppression and creating international security and yes they do want their help, unless they are terrorist scum

yes it is. thinking that other people aren't capable of getting rid of their own oppression because they aren't americans is racist.

invading countries does not create security, it destroys it.

what's the point of invading iraq and afghanistan then? i mean, you said all muslims are terrorist scum, and terrorist scum don't want american help...so muslims don't want american help - follow your own logic.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:35 am

they cant do it because they are not americans and dont have our great system its not racist its the truth because not all americans are white
yea invading countries can destroy turmoil that once existed create a safe democractic environment that is benefical to the world i dont care if they dont want out help they are getting it because the way things are in iraq atm is trapped in civil war empowers radicals and is a threat to national security.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:38 am

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they cant do it because they are not americans and dont have our great system its not racist its the truth because not all americans are white
yea invading countries can destroy turmoil that once existed create a safe democractic environment that is benefical to the world i dont care if they dont want out help they are getting it because the way things are in iraq atm is trapped in civil war empowers radicals and is a threat to national security.

...you are joking, of course.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:43 am

no i am not
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:05 am

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no i am not

*sigh*

first off, america does not have the best system of government, because in the end, only those who are rich and part of the elite class can become powerful.

corporations have undue influence over government (much the same as the catholic church had over the 1700-age governments that jefferson was criticizing)

america has enough turmoil from problems, corruption, starvation, etc., there's no way they can hope to "save the world" (as if the world needed them to be saved!)

iraq WAS NOT in turmoil before the u.s. invaded. it was considered a relatively normal country.

now look at it today. various factions vying for power over the corpses of their friends and american citizens.

there is no safety in democracy, lol, think about how many people get assinated and bullied and paid off. politics is a dangerous business.

iraqi radicals are born everyday because the u.s. butchers innocent iraqis, and their family rise up for revenge. its only natural, afterall. it is BY NO MEANS ENTIRELY because of a religion.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:22 am

iraq was not a normal country unless you think it was okay that saddam was killing an entire ethnic group in such case you are immoral never said democracy is perfect, but its the best form of government there is the US rarely kills innocents and obviously not intentionally 99.9% are insurgents who deserve to die
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:37 am

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iraq was not a normal country unless you think it was okay that saddam was killing an entire ethnic group in such case you are immoral never said democracy is perfect, but its the best form of government there is the US rarely kills innocents and obviously not intentionally 99.9% are insurgents who deserve to die

such sweeping generalizations! i'm in awe!

i said "relatively normal" meaning, even though saddam was killing kurds, its nothing new, turkey does it all the time, should we invade turkey? (tread carefully here...)

democracy needs reform, and the u.s. is NOT a democracy, its a federal republic -_-

u.s. kills innocents all the time, and there are many soldiers who consider all muslims terrorists, regardless as to whether they are innocent, and proceed to kill them.

the u.s. believes its okay to bomb an entire village because there's a rumor that a terrorist leader might live there. that's a hell of a lot of innocents.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:45 am

saddam was a threat to national security thus the invasion seemed justified we couldnt have let him have WMD and allow him to continue killing the kurds, etc. the former is true though despite them not finding it he already had weapons he could use to annihilate a group, disgusting.yeah it is justified to kill people if they are terrorists? see snothing wrong with that.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:54 am

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saddam was a threat to national security thus the invasion seemed justified we couldnt have let him have WMD and allow him to continue killing the kurds, etc. the former is true though despite them not finding it he already had weapons he could use to annihilate a group, disgusting.yeah it is justified to kill people if they are terrorists? see snothing wrong with that.

it is not justified to kill anyone. it is not up to you or anyone else to decide who lives or dies.

he never had them. he was no threat to the u.s.

we didn't care about the rwandan genocide.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:55 am

i cared about the rwandan genocide we should have invaded and enforce military action in sudan as well
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:42 am

There were no WMDs. Not a single one found. It was faulty intelligence to trick the people into supporting the war. The Iraq war was sold to us.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:39 am

we dont know if there is, didnt find them yet doesnt mean there is any
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:35 pm

calinis wrote:
iraq was not a normal country unless you think it was okay that saddam was killing an entire ethnic group in such case you are immoral never said democracy is perfect, but its the best form of government there is the US rarely kills innocents and obviously not intentionally 99.9% are insurgents who deserve to die

do you know how he killed them???
with gas given too him by the USA motherefucker
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:03 am

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false. they invade other countries to help everyone.

Like in Korea where they came this close *small gap between fingers* to Nuking them. Of the 22 largest cities in North Korea 18 were over 50% destroyed during the war (one completely). Furthermore they intervened on the side who committed the worst crimes.
'North Korea' by Bruce Cummings, should you wish to read up on it Wink

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its not about race its about destroying oppression and creating international security

Suuuuurreeee... like when they supported the Baathists in Iraq Laughing
Seriously though. I am curious to know how oppression would be destroyed by the overthrowing of the democratically elected governments of Mosaddeq or Allende?

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the US rarely kills innocents and obviously not intentionally 99.9% are insurgents who deserve to die
Rolling Thunder anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:12 am

its called imperialism and its basically natral to world governments
but its slowly declining and will soon fad out of existance
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:14 am

iran isnt a democracy........i dont care if they call themselves that, north korea does too. besides it is an islamic republic. islam cant function with democracy. it is an oppressive religion that treats people like crap.
and also regarding korea, nuking it would have been just so we wouldnt have to deal with the whole crap with north korea.
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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:04 pm

Surrreee, nukin' my country would have benefited EVERYBODY in the world because hey, it's just one less war loving Asian gook to deal with, eh? Hell, why don't America just nuke the entire fucking world for all we care, because in the end, all that matters is "Amerikkka" and "apple pie". Oh yesh, as long as America is safe, the entire world is safe! And let's celebrate since everybody is happy under America's military MIGHT! HOO-FUCKING-RAY! /EXTREME sarcasm/

MacArthar (that racist BITCH) also wanted to nuke China into dust. If that is not racist extremist, then I don't know what is.

It's a no-brainer why N. Korea is so paraniod about the US.

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PostSubject: Re: the US invading countries they dont like?   Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:35 pm

LOL, actually it would have because north korea wouldnt exist. i'd be so happy i'd jump for joy. it's existance isnt warranted in such the way that the government iscorrupt and could nuke the US. not cool. you honestly dont need to make america seem so bad you dont have to make it seem like its racit by replacing the c with the kkk because its not. idiot. lol, so jerio do you always defend the enemy? leave my country alone.
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