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PostSubject: Russia   Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:23 pm

http://sneezl.com/only-in-russia/
lol! lol! lol! lol!
exampels of exelent police and good worker security. lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:29 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:38 pm

the third picture looked like my last Friday Very Happy except for the dame
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:34 pm

well, after seeing those pictures seems that Russia has peculiar archtitecture, but nobody is exellent Exclamation those pics are took for propaganda (wrong word, but l didnt know better...)
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:45 am

Many of those photos are typical anti Russian propaganda, and about others, I don't see the problem with them, some are examples of pure pragmatism.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:12 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Many of those photos are typical anti Russian propaganda, and about others, I don't see the problem with them, some are examples of pure pragmatism.
very true sorry i havent been on a long time...that is only posted for people to further hate Russia.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:18 am

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
that is only posted for people to further hate Russia.
It's a specific russian humor, that's all.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:32 am

Riddler wrote:
alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
that is only posted for people to further hate Russia.
It's a specific russian humor, that's all.

Even so, many people use it to degrade Russia. There's a slideshow in Youtube for example which uses a couple of those photos with the mere intention to denigrate Russia as if it was an underdeveloped nation.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:32 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Many of those photos are typical anti Russian propaganda, and about others, I don't see the problem with them, some are examples of pure pragmatism.
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no theyr tipical taken by russian pepole in russia to lagf at.
your so sensitive about russia this was under no means any thing but me trying to be funny.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:51 pm

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no theyr tipical taken by russian pepole in russia to lagf at.
your so sensitive about russia this was under no means any thing but me trying to be funny.

Yes I'm very sensitive about Russia because it's a country which aside from self degradation has to stand foreigners laughing at them for such ridiculous images.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:53 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

no theyr tipical taken by russian pepole in russia to lagf at.
your so sensitive about russia this was under no means any thing but me trying to be funny.

Yes I'm very sensitive about Russia because it's a country which aside from self degradation has to stand foreigners laughing at them for such ridiculous images.
and the drun men care?
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:53 pm

mattabesta wrote:
no they typical taken by Russian people in Russia to laugh at.
Yeah Americans do the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:21 pm

Even if they are propoganda they really do exist in russia.. so I guess this propoganda is true.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:24 pm

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Even if they are propoganda they really do exist in russia.. so I guess this propoganda is true.

But they want to make it look like if it was a normal happening in Russia something that is not true. Else some of them are fabrications: intentionally made.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:27 pm

Well just look at the South-East US... Im sure you will find a stairway leading to a window somewhere... I think... Probably not.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:52 pm

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Well just look at the South-East US... Im sure you will find a stairway leading to a window somewhere... I think... Probably not.

Well I have lived in provincial Russia and I didn't see anything like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:05 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
Well just look at the South-East US... Im sure you will find a stairway leading to a window somewhere... I think... Probably not.

Well I have lived in provincial Russia and I didn't see anything like that.
yeah it's just one out of a million by chans that it got on the internet.
pictures like these exist for evry cuntry
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:08 pm

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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
Well just look at the South-East US... Im sure you will find a stairway leading to a window somewhere... I think... Probably not.

Well I have lived in provincial Russia and I didn't see anything like that.
yeah it's just one out of a million by chans that it got on the internet.
pictures like these exist for evry cuntry

Yes, but I have seen a great focus towards Russia for political reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:19 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
Well just look at the South-East US... Im sure you will find a stairway leading to a window somewhere... I think... Probably not.

Well I have lived in provincial Russia and I didn't see anything like that.
yeah it's just one out of a million by chans that it got on the internet.
pictures like these exist for evry cuntry

Yes, but I have seen a great focus towards Russia for political reasons.
thats becuse uyour sensitev and inoied that pepole can prove how horrobly bad communism is for a nation.
my dad went to cuba and wat he noteced that evrybody- even the homeless had clothes and were doing allright. But in the market ther was well, nearly nothing only what you need to survive -nothing eles wether your product was succsesfull or not your life wun't change ther was no reson to make new things, to improve.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:27 pm

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thats becuse uyour sensitev and inoied that pepole can prove how horrobly bad communism is for a nation.

I insist there has never been communism in any nation. Those nations you're speaking about are/were state capitalisms. And State Capitalism, while failed, is not as bad as Free Market Capitalists want to make it look.

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my dad went to cuba and wat he noteced that evrybody- even the homeless had clothes and were doing allright.

Cubans enjoy a greater life standard than most Latin Americans.

mattabesta wrote:

But in the market ther was well, nearly nothing only what you need to survive -nothing eles wether your product was succsesfull or not your life wun't change ther was no reson to make new things, to improve.

Once again, this is capitalism of state. Capitalism of state defacto makes you adopt a capitalist modus vivdendi in which your main motivations are money, material satisfactors and the possibility to overpass others instead of being proud of an achievement or contributing to society.

Cuba is not a communist country, Cuba is a State Capitalist country.


And going back to the discussion on those photos. They're misleading photographies because they make something that is a rare happening to look as a normal daily life issue. When I was living in Russia I saw nothing like what is displayed on those photos. And those photos are not only misleading for that reason, in some cases, even though they're rare, they're not even something per se "bad", some are examples of mere pragmatism.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:31 pm

[quote="Zealot_Kommunizma"]
mattabesta wrote:
thats becuse uyour sensitev and inoied that pepole can prove how horrobly bad communism is for a nation.[/qupte]

I insist there has never been communism in any nation. Those nations you're speaking about are/were state capitalisms. And State Capitalism, while failed, is not as bad as Free Market Capitalists want to make it look.

mattabesta wrote:

my dad went to cuba and wat he noteced that evrybody- even the homeless had clothes and were doing allright.

Cubans enjoy a greater life standard than most Latin Americans.

mattabesta wrote:

But in the market ther was well, nearly nothing only what you need to survive -nothing eles wether your product was succsesfull or not your life wun't change ther was no reson to make new things, to improve.

Once again, this is capitalism of state. Capitalism of state defacto makes you adopt a capitalist modus vivdendi in which your main motivations are money, material satisfactors and the possibility to overpass others instead of being proud of an achievement or contributing to society.

Cuba is not a communist country, Cuba is a State Capitalist country.


And going back to the discussion on those photos. They're misleading photographies because they make something that is a rare happening to look as a normal daily life issue. When I was living in Russia I saw nothing like what is displayed on those photos. And those photos are not only misleading for that reason, in some cases, even though they're rare, they're not even something per se "bad", some are examples of mere pragmatism.
umm the reson why communism dose not work is becuse logicly someone how gets more fish for the herd should get a bigger slice this way evry body tryes to catch more fish and incereas produtivity for...wait for it ......EVRYBODY exept the idiots and lazy pepole.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:23 pm

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umm the reson why communism dose not work is becuse logicly someone how gets more fish for the herd should get a bigger slice this way evry body tryes to catch more fish and incereas produtivity for...wait for it ......EVRYBODY exept the idiots and lazy pepole.

That has nothing to do with logic. Logic would apply if necesarily the one that catched more fish really needed a bigger slice, but someone working at a construction site lifting heavy objects may need that slice more than him. And he will need that construction worker to build his house and so on.

Productivity doesn't require competition, it requires a proper organization, legislation and application of knowledges.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia   Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:31 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
umm the reson why communism dose not work is becuse logicly someone how gets more fish for the herd should get a bigger slice this way evry body tryes to catch more fish and incereas produtivity for...wait for it ......EVRYBODY exept the idiots and lazy pepole.

That has nothing to do with logic. Logic would apply if necesarily the one that catched more fish really needed a bigger slice, but someone working at a construction site lifting heavy objects may need that slice more than him. And he will need that construction worker to build his house and so on.

Productivity doesn't require competition, it requires a proper organization, legislation and application of knowledges.
it dosen't matter to him wether he needs it or not he just wants it and if he deservs it he should get it.
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