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PostSubject: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:14 pm

Ant colonies, buddhist morals, Jesus Christ, blood cells.

Know of some other things?

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:17 pm

1. ant colonies have a queen
2. communism is the negation of morality
3. no, just no.
4. you mean its red? lol

hacking, porn, africa
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:27 pm

obiwan wrote:
1. ant colonies have a queen

That's just a denomination, it's not a monarchy per se. Its function is to breed.
obiwan wrote:

2. communism is the negation of morality

Give a good arguement on why.
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3. no, just no.

Again, arguement.

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4. you mean its red? lol

I'm prety sure he meant the way they work.

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hacking, porn, africa

How come?
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:33 pm

morality is nesisarely class morality. its not objective. comunism abolishes classes,therbey abolishing even subjective. morality.

jesis chirts. come on dude. please. hes a religion. he has morality.

hacking because this one hacker went to jail for hacking some right wingers websitte.

porn because it makes me happy.

africa because it has comunism in it.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:45 pm

obiwan wrote:
morality is nesisarely class morality. its not objective. comunism abolishes classes,therbey abolishing even subjective. morality.

jesis chirts. come on dude. please. hes a religion. he has morality.

hacking because this one hacker went to jail for hacking some right wingers websitte.

porn because it makes me happy.

africa because it has comunism in it.

This is why you rarely win an arguement, you never make any d*mn sense. Grow up relt, seriously.

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:58 pm

obiwan wrote:
morality is nesisarely class morality. its not objective. comunism abolishes classes,therbey abolishing even subjective. morality.

Nope, morality is not necesarily "class morality". Define "morality".

obiwan wrote:

jesis chirts. come on dude. please. hes a religion. he has morality.

You're using the previous non-fundamented arguement as a fundament for this arguement so you better improve the previous argument.

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hacking because this one hacker went to jail for hacking some right wingers websitte.

While not for this reason, in many cases hacking does actually have communist characteristics by allowing free distribution of products.

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porn because it makes me happy.

This is not an arguement.

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africa because it has comunism in it.

Define communism and why Africa has communism.


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This is why you rarely win an arguement, you never make any d*mn sense. Grow up relt, seriously.

Lets teach the guy, if he doesn't like the lessons he can always leave.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:13 pm

fundament? wtf?

wel morality is how someone should act. there is no such thing as objective morality for reasons i have expalined long ago. there is only subjective morality influenced by the material conditions, class morality.

i was just about to do that hacking reson.

porn is like free love.

define communism wtf? theres only one definition of communism, a classless society. africa has primitive pepole living in the jungle. there communism.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:34 pm

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fundament? wtf?

Reasons, bases for your arguments.

obiwan wrote:

wel morality is how someone should act. there is no such thing as objective morality for reasons i have expalined long ago. there is only subjective morality influenced by the material conditions, class morality.

No one said there was an objective morality, yet, you seem to come with an objective definition of morality: the way someone should act. This is completely subjective and is determined by several conditions, not only material.

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i was just about to do that hacking reson.
Obviously.

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porn is like free love.

In which sense?

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define communism wtf? theres only one definition of communism, a classless society. africa has primitive pepole living in the jungle. there communism.

Communism implies more than a classless society, specially when taking into account the evolution of society.

You're basicly saying that communism is to live primitively in the jungle, which is not.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:01 pm

no, im saying comunism is a clasles society. that is the only definition of it. it is the same definitions that every marxist in histroy has used. the jungle pepole are primitive communists.

there is a definition of morality the way someone should. of course thats subjective. NO! ONLY MATERIAL CONDITIONS!

randem pepul ***** each other?
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:30 am

Get a damn clue... Communism employees any basic Moral standard - Killing = bad, Stealing = bad rape = bad and so on and so on... Saying that Communism is morales simply becous it doesn't employ Class Morality, is just as good as me saying you are Immoral becous you don't employ Aboriginal morality.

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:14 am

false. comunism has no moral standerds.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:21 am

false. communism has moral standerds.

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:29 pm

Quit spaming. fundament your claim. Right now its not fundamented.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:00 pm

He already did.

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:07 pm

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Ant colonies

lol, I just remembered the music video of Link 2 3 4.

What else?
Fungus, squash beans and corn, bit torrent, Smurfs and Mario(or so I hear), and futaba.
As for red blood cells, homeostasis requires communist principals in order to be maintained in most if not all multicellular organisms.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:06 pm

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false. comunism has no moral standerds.

This guy argues that communism simply means "classless society" and that inherently doesn't have any moral principles. however, this little guy here fails to realize that communism doesn't simply mean not to have classes.

Communism is a form of social organisation in which we all have equal rights, oportunities and in which no one is above anyone (thus no one below anyone). Remember that we're organised, that we don't only coexist but interact as well. Since our premise is that we're all equaly worthy, that we should work for each other, that we should contribute according to our capacity and consume according to our need, we're inherently settling a set of moral codes. And now, our goals as a communist society: thrive, help each other survive, develop as a society with no economical interests' problems, without wars. If we're going to be equal and we're going to be organised it's for a reason.

How can that not imply moral codes little boy?
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:28 pm

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Quit spaming. fundament your claim. Right now its not fundamented.

Also I used the Exact same argument as he deleting just the word "no" but somehow my Statement was Spam and not clarified, but his was 100% true and logical - Melon you just fail, just leave and stop trying, you don't improve so you just fail continually.

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:25 pm

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Communism is a form of social organisation in which we all have equal rights, oportunities and in which no one is above anyone (thus no one below anyone).

this folows from classless. so you added nothing.

theres no premise. it just hapens that way inevitably. not because of morals. it is inevitable for society to be like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:55 pm

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Also I used the Exact same argument as he deleting just the word "no" but somehow my Statement was Spam and not clarified, but his was 100% true and logical - Melon you just fail, just leave and stop trying, you don't improve so you just fail continually.

Again ignoring the posts that point out your hypocrisy and idiocy? You silly lil' bigot...

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:41 am

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this folows from classless. so you added nothing.

Yeah quote a 4th or 5th of te post, why not just 2 words and then say your interlocutor added nothing. Do you even expect your posts to be taken seriously?

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theres no premise. it just hapens that way inevitably. not because of morals. it is inevitable for society to be like that.

Everything has a premise, a basis, well almost everything but your logic apparently. You keep making statements without arguements...
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:57 am

"Since our premise is that we're all equaly worthy, that we should work for each other, that we should contribute according to our capacity and consume according to our need, we're inherently settling a set of moral codes"

ONly idealists have that premise, i.e. not Marxists.

"And now, our goals as a communist society: thrive, help each other survive, develop as a society with no economical interests' problems, without wars. If we're going to be equal and we're going to be organised it's for a reason."

Lol @ liberal kiddie."help each other thrive" what a load of BS

"Everything has a premise, a basis, well almost everything but your logic apparently."

There is no moral reason why communism should exist. Communism will inevitably exist. ENd.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:58 am

So your saying Communism is about looking out for yourself and yourself only? That don't even make you a Stalinist Socio-path, but a blunt out Fascist...

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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:58 am

Communism is not a part of Marxism simply because its historically inevitable, but because its a good idea because coincides a set of values.
If you argue the validity of communism based solely on inevitability and regard any values associated with it as irrelevant then you are not a communist.
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PostSubject: Re: Several things with communist characteristics   Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:39 pm

comunism isnt about looking out for yourself. in communism everyone looks out for each other but not because thats morally beter, it just happens that way inevitably.

wow look at oligarch saying karl marx is not a communist.
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