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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:00 am

lol genocide , it's hard to commit genocide on a nation with a 300,000 population.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:02 am

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lol genocide , it's hard to commit genocide on a nation with a 300,000 population.
I mean the South Ossiatian Genocied, the one Georgia is doing to South Ossitia.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:03 am

Comrade Pollett wrote:
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lol genocide , it's hard to commit genocide on a nation with a 300,000 population.
I mean the South Ossiatian Genocied, the one Georgia is doing to South Ossitia.

the none exsistant one right?
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:47 pm

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lol genocide , it's hard to commit genocide on a nation with a 300,000 population.

What? This really makes me question your intelligence or the seriousnes of your posts (maybe even both).

Are you trying to say that just because a population is small it can't be target of genocide? According to your logic destroying all of Iceland's population wouldn't count as genocide. If you didn't mean this, then BE MORE CLEAR.

Now, South Ossetia counts with 70,000 population half of which have fled to Russia. Georgia counts with nearly 5million people and Abkhazia counts with around 200-300,000 inhabitants. Based on this you seem to imply that the claimed target of genocide is Abkhazia something no one has claimed. If you meant other country, you got your figures wrong.

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the none exsistant one right?
*the non-existant one.

It's now unexistant because Russia stopped and prevented it. Several Russian and foreign media have confirmed Georgian genocidal actions and the destruction caused by Georgia to South Ossetia. And by foriegn I mean western, mostly pro-Georgian media.

Georgia attacked Tskhinvali, destroyed most of it, killed nearly 1,600-2,000 people in around 3 days and Russia intervented. Would it be necesary that Georgia killed more people to call it Genocide? If you think so, then sir, you're sick.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:50 pm

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Comrade Pollett wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
lol genocide , it's hard to commit genocide on a nation with a 300,000 population.
I mean the South Ossiatian Genocied, the one Georgia is doing to South Ossitia.

the none exsistant one right?
no the one that s killing thousands, its not easy to mix those to up
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:55 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

What? This really makes me question your intelligence or the seriousnes of your posts (maybe even both).

Are you trying to say that just because a population is small it can't be target of genocide? According to your logic destroying all of Iceland's population wouldn't count as genocide. If you didn't mean this, then BE MORE CLEAR.
no I'm not saying that that woun't count as genocide but I hardly think georgia has been commiting genocide although casultyes mabe high that ain't genocide.
lol and also killing iceland would be too easy but the problem is to kill all ethnic icelanders becuse there is like half a million in canada and the u.s

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Now, South Ossetia counts with 70,000 population half of which have fled to Russia. Georgia counts with nearly 5million people and Abkhazia counts with around 200-300,000 inhabitants. Based on this you seem to imply that the claimed target of genocide is Abkhazia something no one has claimed. If you meant other country, you got your figures wrong.

8 arne't ossetians a nation? so if they have s-ossetia they must also have n-ossetia in russia, right? meaniong the population is a lot moar than 70,000

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*the non-existant one.

It's now unexistant because Russia stopped and prevented it. Several Russian and foreign media have confirmed Georgian genocidal actions and the destruction caused by Georgia to South Ossetia. And by foriegn I mean western, mostly pro-Georgian media.

Georgia attacked Tskhinvali, destroyed most of it, killed nearly 1,600-2,000 people in around 3 days and Russia intervented. Would it be necesary that Georgia killed more people to call it Genocide? If you think so, then sir, you're sick.
you obviuslyy don't know the definition of genocide

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:28 pm

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Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

a genocide is already when military fights/annihilate "directed" the population/ethnic group

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8 arne't ossetians a nation? so if they have s-ossetia they must also have n-ossetia in russia, right? meaniong the population is a lot moar than 70,000

ossetia is not a nation, its a ethnic group like slaws or muslims

the population in sout ossetia is 70.000 and this is nearly a real country its just not recognised, sp the population in this country is 70.000
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:50 pm

Thank you for finally organising your replies.

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no I'm not saying that that woun't count as genocide but I hardly think georgia has been commiting genocide although casultyes mabe high that ain't genocide.

If civilian casualties are high in a short period of time and attacks are focused against civilian population being thus the majourity of casualties, then it is genocide.

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lol and also killing iceland would be too easy but the problem is to kill all ethnic icelanders becuse there is like half a million in canada and the u.s

And it would be genocide anyway, who was speaking about difficulty?

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8 arne't ossetians a nation? so if they have s-ossetia they must also have n-ossetia in russia, right? meaniong the population is a lot moar than 70,000

Ossetians are an ethnic group, South Ossetia is an unrecognized nation with 70,000 inhabitants.

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you obviuslyy don't know the definition of genocide

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

Obviously you don't know how to identify genocide. Were you probably expecting that Georgians built something like concentration camps or something like that?

Launching massive artillery barrages against civilian population, prosecuting and killing sheltered civilians and engaging in acts of sadism in great ammount in short time, qualifies as genocide.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:40 am

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Quote :
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

a genocide is already when military fights/annihilate "directed" the population/ethnic group

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8 arne't ossetians a nation? so if they have s-ossetia they must also have n-ossetia in russia, right? meaniong the population is a lot moar than 70,000

ossetia is not a nation, its a ethnic group like slaws or muslims

the population in sout ossetia is 70.000 and this is nearly a real country its just not recognised, sp the population in this country is 70.000


Nationhood is an ethical and philosophical doctrine and is the starting point for the ideology of nationalism; a nation is a form of self-defined cultural and social community.[2] Members of a "nation" share a common identity, and usually a common origin, in the sense of history, ancestry, parentage or descent

acctully it's the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:56 am

nice wiki post.


PS

aren't you banned I'm so confused!
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:44 pm

I was banned for 30 days for spamming in the party section all I was doing was to check wethere anyone would notice and noone did for months till I suddenly got banned.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:09 pm

so how come it says ZEK in Gulag

because your not allowed in any parties?
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

12 Year Old Girl Tells the Truth on Fox News about Georgia. Fox News even had to cut them off right in the middle of the account of Georgian aggression even though they had just come from a commercial break 2 minutes prior to that. Fucking Fox News and corporate media do not want the truth out. Every main stream news agency in the world feeds the world propaganda every day!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:10 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

12 Year Old Girl Tells the Truth on Fox News about Georgia. Fox News even had to cut them off right in the middle of the account of Georgian aggression even though they had just come from a commercial break 2 minutes prior to that. Fucking Fox News and corporate media do not want the truth out. Every main stream news agency in the world feeds the world propaganda every day!!!!

lol busted with the pants down.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:03 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:23 pm

They got ownt! ROFLZ!

I'll show this to my classes as PROOF that the Russians are not there as so-called "evildoers". This made me gloat in lulz.

So called "freedom" America is eh? ROFLZZZZ!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:17 pm

The War in 1 picture!


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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:42 pm

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The War in 1 picture!


OMFG THAT ONE IS GREAT !!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:39 pm

MEDVEDEV HAVE SIGN! ABCHASIA AND SOUT OSSETIA ARE INDIPENDENCE!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:24 pm

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MEDVEDEV HAVE SIGN! ABCHASIA AND SOUT OSSETIA ARE INDIPENDENCE!!!


the puppet?
you mean that puting gave the tumbs up?
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:48 pm

taking bets on how long until russia quietly absorbs both of them

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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:00 pm

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taking bets on how long until russia quietly absorbs both of them

Which would not happen without South Ossetians and Abkhazians wanting it.
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:23 am

Did anyone see how saakashvili lost his "prescence of mind"?
Truly showing the true nature of his character.

Psychiatrists say he developed stress related problems. I wonder what went wrong in his childhod.

You should see where runs away from his guards when seeing a plane in the sky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlQ_fzECl4
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PostSubject: Re: Not surprising, but infuriating: South Ossesia crisis 2008   Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:32 pm

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
Did anyone see how saakashvili lost his "prescence of mind"?
Truly showing the true nature of his character.

Psychiatrists say he developed stress related problems. I wonder what went wrong in his childhod.

You should see where runs away from his guards when seeing a plane in the sky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlQ_fzECl4

he is mentally ill you saw the video who he eats his tie?

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