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PostSubject: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:31 pm

Do you think these countries deserve to be independent?

Yes, or no. Please state why you think so.

I think they should all be free, I strongly support the IRA and other movements through out the UK. Most people think Wales should stay part of the UK, but I disagree (maybe because I am part Welsh?). The fact is all those places were taken by force, and deserve to be free.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:07 pm

lol ive got blood from all of those places

as far as i'm concerned together they are more powerful. plus all the prime ministers these days are Scottish.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:11 pm

wales has been a part of england for 1200 years and I don't see that changing however scotland could be indipendent but he point would be usless the nations are far too close tide. when I lived in scotland there were 4 enghlish kids and 10 half english and pretty much evryone was part english. also eng land is a lot richer than scotland so the english are paying for someof scotlands heathcare. on the othere hand the wast mayjoratyof the oil and gas reserves are within scottish terratoryal waters.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:16 pm

mattabesta wrote:
wales has been a part of england for 1200 years and I don't see that changing however scotland could be indipendent but he point would be usless the nations are far too close tide. when I lived in scotland there were 4 enghlish kids and 10 half english and pretty much evryone was part english. also eng land is a lot richer than scotland so the english are paying for someof scotlands heathcare. on the othere hand the wast mayjoratyof the oil and gas reserves are within scottish terratoryal waters.
Bravo!
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:44 pm

scotland dont want to be independec, they had a election for they independec and only 48% says yes
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:21 pm

But Wales does, and don't say Ireland doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:42 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
scotland dont want to be independec, they had a election for they independec and only 48% says yes

lol the scottish national party won the last elections.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:39 pm

mattabesta wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
scotland dont want to be independec, they had a election for they independec and only 48% says yes

lol the scottish national party won the last elections.

i mean the asked the people in scotland, they should vote for the independenc and just 48% sayd yes
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:44 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
scotland dont want to be independec, they had a election for they independec and only 48% says yes

lol the scottish national party won the last elections.

i mean the asked the people in scotland, they should vote for the independenc and just 48% sayd yes
the one i read said that 70 percent said no

also its clear Ireland wants to be independent(and is), but for reasons i don't know, Northern Ireland wishes to stay in the UK. agian i dont know why they want to be in the UK when they could be in there own country but they do.


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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:16 pm

lol

RedSoviet? are you saying this is a poll in scotland, or an election.
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:38 am

it was a poll, all scotish people should vote what the want for scotland, should it be independent or stay with england, and just 48% wanted a independents
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:00 am

Comrade Pollett wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
scotland dont want to be independec, they had a election for they independec and only 48% says yes

lol the scottish national party won the last elections.

i mean the asked the people in scotland, they should vote for the independenc and just 48% sayd yes
the one i read said that 70 percent said no

also its clear Ireland wants to be independent(and is), but for reasons i don't know, Northern Ireland wishes to stay in the UK. agian i dont know why they want to be in the UK when they could be in there own country but they do.

northren ireland was one of the first places to be cquncered by the enghlish and the population tere is very mixed as a result and most pepole are protestant but the chatolic minoraty wants to join and becuse of that, the IRA
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:06 am

That is just a stereotype most leading contributors of the IRA were either protestant or American...there are many books about these conflicts (the conflicts are usually referred to as the troubles). And, if you didn't know the IRA is still active, just peaceful.

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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:32 am

Liche wrote:
That is just a stereotype most leading contributors of the IRA were either protestant or American...there are many books about these conflicts (the conflicts are usually referred to as the troubles). And, if you didn't know the IRA is still active, just peaceful.

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Enviro they are green!

not really thereare sevral IRAs
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:00 am

You are talking about the Irish Republican Army? No?
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:45 am

I think Scotland and N-Irleand deserve a own state but wales..nah, but if they all can be 1 big nation then it would be ok =D
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:18 am

Liche wrote:
You are talking about the Irish Republican Army? No?

yes tere are sevral
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:54 am

I... know too little to care, really. He, he, he.

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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:51 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
I... know too little to care, really. He, he, he.

dosn't matter it'S basicly factions that want peac and those who want to blow things up, mostly pepole
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:20 am

I'm talking about the official IRA...
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PostSubject: Re: Welsh/Irish/Scotish Nationalism   Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:06 am

yeah
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