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Will churches exist under communism?
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Cyprian Uljanow
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:24 pm

Nope I don't - even thou I think Religion is a serious mental disorder

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:08 pm

calinis wrote:
why does everyone keep posting macros?

at least there is freedom in america, as opposed to in the USSR where people were fearful that the NKVD would come and arrest you for no reason and ship you off to the cold and brutal conditions of the siberian gulags.

hmmm...who is more evil now? stalin or bush?

I'm yet to know a single person who lived in USSR and was afraid of the KGB... and I know plenty of people that lived in USSR.
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:28 am

Religion WOULD exist in a communist society, simply because people would have the right and guareentee to live in caring hands. They would have the freedom to choose what they want and not even worry about money, or bs like that.

However, it can ALSO be moot. Since the people live their lives decently and happily, they would be barely be any need for religion. Or at least, Western style religion. Which, if I remember correctly, goes like this.



Simply put, communism would be like a village working together to supply their needs and demands. I see no problem in banned INSTIUTIONAL religious groups (like fking $cientology) but ancient rituals and rites (much like the days of the old) I would allow.

Because most of the time, those same rituals and rites have predicted future events correct.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:31 am

I shouldn't be allowed. Send me to the Gulag, pls.
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:34 am

Hoxhaist wrote:
I do not respect fascists beliefs, but I would say that there might be buildings in communism that once functioned as churches, but there will be no religion in communism, so there will be no buildings functioning as churches.
That's an outdated marxist dogma. In normal communism, any religion which is not immoral should be tolerated.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:36 am

calinis wrote:
I shouldn't be allowed. Send me to the Gulag, pls.

WTF who edited that?
That's not allowed i think.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:42 am

Stalinists are anti-religion though? confused


And whoever edited my post, thank God that you apperciate freedom of speech!
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:45 am

calinis wrote:
Stalinists are anti-religion though? confused
Most of them aren't.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:47 am

calinis wrote:
Cyprian and Jeiro's BS shouldn't be allowed.


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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:48 am

But Stalin hated religion and sent everyone who was religious to the Gulags?
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:48 am

Aww u got that from 7chan XD
Its still is an awsume image Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:49 am

You know, Jeiro, you're kinda lucky. No matter how much offensive crap you get you'll never get banned and everyone will defend you regardless of the BS you spew out.
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:49 am

Jeiro, where's the pic from?

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:52 am

calinis wrote:
But Stalin hated religion and sent everyone who was religious to the Gulags?
Thats not correct. He re-opened the churches during the WWII and some say that he wasn't completely atheist. The other problem was that some Party leaders thought that religion and communism/socialism cannot be together and made all sorts of crap to the religios people.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:54 am

He only allowed the illusion of religion to make it seem like there was freedom, but actively pursued individuals who were religious.
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:09 am

calinis wrote:
He only allowed the illusion of religion to make it seem like there was freedom, but actively pursued individuals who were religious.
Where is this stated from? I know that he wasn't against religion, but I wouldn't say that about some of his coworkers.

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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:14 am

calinis wrote:
He only allowed the illusion of religion to make it seem like there was freedom, but actively pursued individuals who were religious.

My Russian teacher, who lived under Stalin's rule and who is somewhat religious thinks different from you.
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PostSubject: Re: Will churches exist under communism?   Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:14 am

calinis wrote:
just cuz he says it doesnt mean hes right.



lolwut?

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