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+8Zealot_Kommunizma RedSoviet Antifa mattabesta Hutin Suprimée Jeiro Sijakeuigwan revolution CoolKidX 12 posters |
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Gulag the red guards? | HELL YEA!!!! | | 14% | [ 2 ] | Yes! | | 36% | [ 5 ] | i don't know | | 21% | [ 3 ] | No | | 14% | [ 2 ] | No, there heroes. | | 14% | [ 2 ] |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:20 am | |
| They were civlilans , mostly young and students who were mobilized by Mao Zedong between 1966 and 1968. To get an basic idea of them, they smahed all what was old, including: Old books, Statues, They destroyed Churches and temples, smashing evrything they could find that was old. THiz was also known as the CUlture Revoltuion. They tortured ppl cause they didnt believe in there idea or from Mao. Thousand were tortuerd, 100's were killed. Re-education old folks, rich farmers and capatlists. Here's an poster from them. It says :"Smash the old world / Establish a new world." And don't say No or there Heroes just because there Red and all. | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 30 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:59 am | |
| Defenders of the Revolution. | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:04 am | |
| No. Just no. It was WRONG to try and destory China's proud historical artifacts like what they did. If they were truely revolutionaries, they should have preserved like what USSR and Cuba did.
Send the Red Guards to the reeducation camps in my book. Perhaps they can be reformed in order to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again, but destroying over 5000plus years history to safeguard what was a lie anyway is a no no. | |
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Hutin Suprimée ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 492 Join date : 2008-07-16 Age : 32 Location : France/Quebec
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:37 am | |
| Maybe some of them...I don't know, I have such a huge respect for soldiers.
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:56 am | |
| - Hutin wrote:
- Maybe some of them...I don't know, I have such a huge respect for soldiers.
lol they weren't exacly soildiers. | |
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Hutin Suprimée ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 492 Join date : 2008-07-16 Age : 32 Location : France/Quebec
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:59 am | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:04 am | |
| - Hutin wrote:
- In some way they were..
moar loke roge militia, i think | |
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Hutin Suprimée ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 492 Join date : 2008-07-16 Age : 32 Location : France/Quebec
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:06 am | |
| Well, they won, and winners write history. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 pm | |
| - Hutin wrote:
- Well, they won, and winners write history.
lol true especally in this case. | |
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Antifa Pioneer
Posts : 29 Join date : 2008-06-07 Age : 53 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:04 pm | |
| Actually they didn't win and that is the problem. Different red guard groups believed in different things and those that adhered to the program of Mao lost the struggle with the revisionists under Deng. It is a bit more complicated than the Dengists would claim. | |
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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1376 Join date : 2008-07-23 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:25 pm | |
| NO! no heros but not bad, your answere options are very onesided like your text, they were no monsters | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| - RedSoviet wrote:
- NO! no heros but not bad, your answere options are very onesided like your text, they were no monsters
Why are they not monsters in your opnion? | |
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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1376 Join date : 2008-07-23 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:36 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- RedSoviet wrote:
- NO! no heros but not bad, your answere options are very onesided like your text, they were no monsters
Why are they not monsters in your opnion? why they are in your? in my becouse the defended the young revolution and "tried" maybe not good but still the tried to make china a better and modern place | |
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Antifa Pioneer
Posts : 29 Join date : 2008-06-07 Age : 53 Location : Ireland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:55 pm | |
| The history of the Cultural Revolution has never been properly analysed correctly, which is a shame as it was a time of important struggle between the capitalist roaders. Mao correctly noted that the re-emergence of the bourgeoisie would not come from without, but from within the communist party and, as Marx pointed out, "All new societies are born bearing the birthmarks of the old".
There were many Red Guard groups and there were many contending opinions within these. Mistakes were of course made as is normal in any active movement but they gave the world a rich legacy of revolutionary education that continues to inspire and inform revolutionaries all over the world.
In recent times there has been much talk of how Red Guards destroyed monasteries in Tibet. First of all, in spite of western propaganda, there were very few Hans in Tibet during the Cultural Revolution due to its remoteness and lack of infrastructure. Rather, the Tibetan Red Guards, oppressed for years by the Dalai Lama's sect, turned their anger upon the monasteries from where the most vicious tyranny had emerged. One Tibetan, freed from slavery by the abolition of slavery in Tibet aid, "when I heard a holy man give the order to gouge out my eyes, that day I was finished with religion". His crime had been that he had run away from the monastery that owned him. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:03 pm | |
| Precisely because of all the very intense misinformation campaings, I abs tain to judge these men as heroes or criminals. | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:32 pm | |
| They certainly didn't accomplish anything, they just destroyed important monuments and artifacts and beat people for not having a copy of Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung on their person. It wasn't really their fault though, it was a lot like the Hitler Youth and not participation in the "Cultural Revolution" was not an option. Mao had a few sane original ideas but for the most part his writings are either lifted from Lenin or Stalin or or demonstrate that his understanding of Marxism was on existent. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:10 am | |
| - RedSoviet wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
- RedSoviet wrote:
- NO! no heros but not bad, your answere options are very onesided like your text, they were no monsters
Why are they not monsters in your opnion? why they are in your?
in my becouse the defended the young revolution and "tried" maybe not good but still the tried to make china a better and modern place by whiping out 5000 years of history? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:29 am | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
by whiping out 5000 years of history? Don't exagerate matta. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:44 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
by whiping out 5000 years of history? Don't exagerate matta. ok attempting to whipe out. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:53 am | |
| you are still waaaaay over exaggerating.
5000 years of history would be up to 3k BC
and I voted no, because I'm not sure if all the things people say about them are true.
plus in one sense, like huntin said, they were soldiers, which means that they were just following orders. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:20 pm | |
| - Liche wrote:
- you are still waaaaay over exaggerating.
5000 years of history would be up to 3k BC
and I voted no, because I'm not sure if all the things people say about them are true.
plus in one sense, like huntin said, they were soldiers, which means that they were just following orders. So if thiz were german soldiers who killed JEws cause it was there orders u vote no? | |
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Cyprian Uljanow World Republic Party Member
Posts : 690 Join date : 2008-03-25 Age : 45 Location : Wroclaw
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| Red Guards wore a viscous mobs of fanatical zealots, and the fact they wore fighting for communism dose not excuse them from the horrid acts of violence and sadistic quirks they commenced.
Gulag.
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:13 pm | |
| - Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
- Red Guards wore a viscous mobs of fanatical zealots, and the fact they wore fighting for communism dose not excuse them from the horrid acts of violence and sadistic quirks they commenced.
Gulag. Thank you Cyprian Uljanow for the good point ^-^ | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:19 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
- you are still waaaaay over exaggerating.
5000 years of history would be up to 3k BC
and I voted no, because I'm not sure if all the things people say about them are true.
plus in one sense, like huntin said, they were soldiers, which means that they were just following orders. I know the firts chinese big state was established somewere areound 2800-2500BC it was Z something not sure. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Red Guards Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:37 am | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- Liche wrote:
- you are still waaaaay over exaggerating.
5000 years of history would be up to 3k BC
and I voted no, because I'm not sure if all the things people say about them are true.
plus in one sense, like huntin said, they were soldiers, which means that they were just following orders. So if thiz were german soldiers who killed JEws cause it was there orders u vote no? yes, I would vote no. they were taught jews were the axis of all evil. and if they didn't listen to these orders, they would go through the same punishment as the jews. | |
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