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PostSubject: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 10:29 am

this is my first post in a long time, my internet has been horrible.

anyway i have a friend who is overtly anti-anarchist without any logical explanations for his opinion. we did however co-exist for a long time and he became one of my closest friends. unfortunately earlier this week politics got brought up and i ended up calling him a spoiled member of the bourgeoisie who didn't know what he was talking about and was ignorant to the world. obviously he was very offended and he proceeded to spread crap all around our group of friends. finally after days of toiling we have made peace and sorted things out.

my question is this: should radical leftists have right wing friends or associates? and if so where is that middle ground?
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 1:44 pm

yes they should, just dont talk politics or talk politics in a not aggresive way
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 2:29 pm

no way, a left wing should fight the nazis rightis .... just the idea of it is already crazy

i wona see that the when the communist party go a coalition with the fascist party too take over the government

a contradiction in itself
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 2:51 pm

Sure why not? I just don't talk politics around them.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 2:54 pm

Theres no reason why not too have right friends
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 3:35 pm

OFcourse you can have right friends =]
You can just talk about poltica, but in a peaceful way, not agresive.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 5:53 pm

I have had a friend who I met while he was an anti-semitic fascist who admired Hitler and wanted to wipe all homosexuals off the earth and I was in the transition from a Zionist to a brief Social-democrat stage. Inspite of his anti-semitism and my zionism we managed to find common grounds and had very interesting discussions. He's 3 years older than me.

After 7 years of talking he has stopped being fascist and regards some left-wing ideas common to his own. I'd call him "nietzchesian cultural aristocrat" since while he's completely against capitalism he thinks we all are born with different capiabilities and should enjoy rigts according to them and is obssesed with western (specially german) classical and romantic culture (he's a fan of mozart, bach, wagner and Beethoven). Else he still thinks Jews are the pupeteers that pull the power cords of at least USA. He's still right wing but is far from the position he used to have.

Even though I don't know him in person (we met through internet, and we live 1km away from each other) I consider him a close friend. 7 years of talking, exchanging political views and telling to each other some very confidential issues have made me think so of him.

Even a jew can befriend an antisemit given the proper context.

My best friend is right wing too. He's a promoter of a "utopian capitalism". And my other friends, well, I'd call them politically undefined, probably indfifferent. They kind of people that would adapt either to right wing or left wing dominance.

Actually I don't have a single real life friend who is left wing, well perhaps one but he's center-left.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 7:10 pm

yea, all my RL friends are right-wing, or center left.

but I all ways argue with them about politics, though we are still friends.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 12:50 am

RedSoviet wrote:
no way, a left wing should fight the nazis rightis .... just the idea of it is already crazy

i wona see that the when the communist party go a coalition with the fascist party too take over the government

a contradiction in itself

This is more about personal issues Red. Maybe you can be friend of a right-wing person and screw him politically.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 8:00 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
no way, a left wing should fight the nazis rightis .... just the idea of it is already crazy

i wona see that the when the communist party go a coalition with the fascist party too take over the government

a contradiction in itself

This is more about personal issues Red. Maybe you can be friend of a right-wing person and screw him politically.

its imposible, how you can be friend with someone wen you now, that he contradicts all what you belive in

how can i be silence and ignore someone when i now that he maybe thinks that im scum and trash, and i think it too

you cant just ignore the politicle and the human part

all traitor's you cant be left wing and belive in that ideals and in the same time befriends with fascists and nazis.

maybe a social demokrat can (talk) with the right wing but be friends? no and no socialist and communist... a shame!
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 8:25 am

It's the kind of friend you tell "If I win power and you don't collaborate, I'll kill you".
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 5:11 pm

RedSoviet wrote:


all traitor's you cant be left wing and belive in that ideals and in the same time befriends with fascists and nazis.

maybe a social demokrat can (talk) with the right wing but be friends? no and no socialist and communist... a shame!

So you judge ppl on what there poltical ideas are?
I mean i get the nazi thing but WHOLE the right-wing.

Your not that friendly =.=
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 5:13 pm

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So you judge ppl on what there poltical ideas are?
I mean i get the nazi thing but WHOLE the right-wing.

Your not that friendly =.=

I don't hink he ever claimed being friendly...
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 7:43 pm

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So you judge ppl on what there poltical ideas are?

of course i do, how can you ignore that?!?

can you ignore and be friendly and a friend to somone who is a maybe paedophilic which politicals ideas are make leagal to f**k 10 years old children?

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I mean i get the nazi thing but WHOLE the right-wing.

all right wings are scum! i just have some respect for the liberal republicans like ron paul
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 7:48 pm

I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 9:15 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.

so you wanne tell that communist are scum? and im a fascist?

your a such a dumb ass lol!
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 9:17 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.

so you wanne tell that communist are scum? and im a fascist?

your a such a dumb ass lol!

So is yo'momma.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 9:23 pm

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RedSoviet wrote:
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I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.

so you wanne tell that communist are scum? and im a fascist?

your a such a dumb ass lol!

So is yo'momma.

lol you sucker, but you are realy a dumb kid, why you debating if you cant never answere a qustion?

you are a drag for this forum, go play with your toys Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 9:58 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.

so you wanne tell that communist are scum? and im a fascist?

your a such a dumb ass lol!

So is yo'momma.

lol you sucker, but you are realy a dumb kid, why you debating if you cant never answere a qustion?

you are a drag for this forum, go play with your toys Basketball

Debate about what?
You sayd to me im dumb, lol that a good argument u wnna say?
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 10:30 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
I have some commie friends, i dont think there all scum, i dont think like a facist srry i mean you.

so you wanne tell that communist are scum? and im a fascist?

your a such a dumb ass lol!

So is yo'momma.

lol you sucker, but you are realy a dumb kid, why you debating if you cant never answere a qustion?

you are a drag for this forum, go play with your toys Basketball

Debate about what?
You sayd to me im dumb, lol that a good argument u wnna say?

debate about everyting! you naver can say a argument or a fact NEVER! even zelot says make some researches befor you open your mouth lol!

and even to this thread agian

you said
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So you judge ppl on what there poltical ideas are?

and i said to that
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of course i do, how can you ignore that?!?

can you ignore and be friendly and a friend to somone who is a maybe paedophilic which politicals ideas are make leagal to f**k 10 years old children?

and you said: ... right! nothing

damn you funny little brat
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 10:41 pm

I dotn have to reply on evrything =/

Dude ofcourse not on pedopihles or shit like that, that's just wrong, the fact is you can have other right friend who are not facist or something like that, but you just want to kill evry one -.-
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 10:45 pm

I dont let my potlical ideas deciece if i like a friend, like you like someone very much as a friend and you ask"so your a commie or socialist or what?
He's like im a facist, then im in mah head like "okay jsut dont talk about poltics and we could still be friends cause i like him and were for each other".
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 10:52 pm

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I dotn have to reply on evrything =/

then shut up, no i mean it seriously, in a real discussion you cant ignore a answere and a question,but if you do then shut up and dont post ther!

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Dude ofcourse not on pedopihles or shit like that, that's just wrong, the fact is you can have other right friend who are not facist or something like that, but you just want to kill evry one -.-

lol what bullshit, i wanne kill them all were do you get this? santa told you maybe?

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I dont let my potlical ideas deciece if i like a friend, like you like someone very much as a friend and you ask"so your a commie or socialist or what?
He's like im a facist, then im in mah head like "okay jsut dont talk about poltics and we could still be friends cause i like him and were for each other".

just a dumb kid can say that, a disagree in it self you said below "Dude ofcourse not on pedopihles or shit like that" this shit like that are nazis and fasisct, the wanne kill everyone they are mentally sick people
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeTue Sep 09, 2008 1:04 am

Red I gotta admit your pretty shallow if you think you can't have right-winged friends, just becous there different in ideology. What the hell dose it matter on what party you sit when your out having a beer. You are quite a discriminant lil' bastard for a supposed Communist.
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PostSubject: Re: right wing friends   right wing friends Icon_minitimeTue Sep 09, 2008 3:10 am

Of course they should have right wing friends! It keeps things interesting! What else would you do with your time?? Study? BWA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
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