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PostSubject: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:39 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVjYO9FKL7o&NR=1

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:49 am

mononokifool wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVjYO9FKL7o&NR=1

dude that pisses me off... there was a time when the USSR had a much higher standard of living then the US.

i don't know as much about communism as i should, but i what i do know tells me it IS better alternative to capitalism... but then again what isn't?
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:26 pm

Alek4A wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVjYO9FKL7o&NR=1

dude that pisses me off... there was a time when the USSR had a much higher standard of living then the US.

i don't know as much about communism as i should, but i what i do know tells me it IS better alternative to capitalism... but then again what isn't?

Higher stand?
In what?

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:23 pm

Alek4A wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVjYO9FKL7o&NR=1

dude that pisses me off... there was a time when the USSR had a much higher standard of living then the US.

i don't know as much about communism as i should, but i what i do know tells me it IS better alternative to capitalism... but then again what isn't?

they never had better but it was a LOT better than it is today this is due to the currubtion that communism lef behind but this will hopefully be fixed by the expansion of the eu.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:06 pm

Seriously, were there no homeless in communist Russia? Of course there was. There will ALWAYS be homeless who slip through the cracks. I'm jst saying this is an old tactic to pull at the heartstrings. I can do the same, and call it COMMUNIST hell, by finding just the same footage. WEll, no, since cameras were not as numerous then, but you get the point.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:28 pm

Take some clips of poor ppl just at a random place, call it cappie hell, you just made a bull-sh!t movie.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:22 pm

And you all cappies made a bullshit statement out of plain ignorance.

There were no homeless in USSR unless those who actually chose to be.. guess what? You didn't even NEED to pay for housing. There were m assive housing projects anyone had access to. You could easily move from a city to an other, etc. Ask any Russian, Ukrainian, Bielorussian or Kazakh that lived in the Soviet times prior to Gorbaidiot.

There were indeed in the immediate post-war and still around some of teh reconstruction era, but after that, and there are enough accounts, there weren't.

And about living standards. Well, Education was totally free in the USSR. Transportation was extremely cheap, Health service was free as well.

In USA there are around 40 million people that live below the poverty line. As an average if your country has NOBODY below the poverty line and the other has 40 million below it, then, your country has better living standards.


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they never had better but it was a LOT better than it is today this is due to the currubtion that communism lef behind but this will hopefully be fixed by the expansion of the eu.

Yeah, of course. "Corruption" is an immediate factor for poor social conditions. It's just an excessively simple, shallow and so infantile way to explain the causes of a problem, and moreover dare to propose a solution on the same grounds.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:20 am

do you know that in the USA when you dont have a health insurance in you must go to a hospital that already the visit (entry) cost over 400$ you can see it on the documentary of Morgan Spurlock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Days (First season/Minimum Wage)

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:40 am

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do you know that in the USA when you dont have a health insurance in you must go to a hospital that already the visit (entry) cost over 400$ you can see it on the documentary of Morgan Spurlock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Days (First season/Minimum Wage)

Once a man got to pay 1800$ for a broken thumb :O
That's just a big scam.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:44 am

I was hit by a truck in USA. Just the entrance to ER costed 660 dollars, x-rays about 440 and I don't remember the price of the other things, the case is that the bill totaled 1,725 dollars and they couldn 't even tell me beforehand. I received the bill two weeks after I left the hospital. An d they told me it was one of the cheapest hospitals (non-profit hospital they said, ha) around.

Just for a swollen foot....
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:47 am

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I was hit by a truck in USA. Just the entrance to ER costed 660 dollars, x-rays about 440 and I don't remember the price of the other things, the case is that the bill totaled 1,725 dollars and they couldn 't even tell me beforehand. I received the bill two weeks after I left the hospital. An d they told me it was one of the cheapest hospitals (non-profit hospital they said, ha) around.

Just for a swollen foot....

Damm, that sucks big time.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:54 am

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Damm, that sucks big time.

That's real capitalism. Not even in nowadays Russia will you see such a ridiculous thing except in isolated cases.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:59 am

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Damm, that sucks big time.

That's real capitalism. Not even in nowadays Russia will you see such a ridiculous thing except in isolated cases.

Holland you dont get to pay that much, you don't even have to if you have insurance =]

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:02 am

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Holland you dont get to pay that much, you don't even have to if you have insurance =]

In Russia it's for free.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:53 am

Holy shi...

I can't believe it, and yet...it's ALL there. My gods. I have to show this to my school and more importantly, my fking economics (oopslol sry. Brainwashing) class.

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I'm quitting JROTC. f**k it. I'm turning in my ranks and all. No WAY I'm gonna live with that. Seriously. I love Russia but...my gods.

This is just beyong horrible. T.T Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Sad

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:56 am

Russia is that way beacuse of free m ark et c apitalism. I'd love to put that fucking Gorbachyov to live in the streets so that he can feel how it feels.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:03 am

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Russia is that way beacuse of free m ark et c apitalism. I'd love to put that fucking Gorbachyov to live in the streets so that he can feel how it feels.

Don't fuckin dare speak about Gorbachov that way, USSR was poorer back then, then now, it is, not good houses maybe be the Russians got all the cool Ipod stuff, cellphonese that rule, Wii.., Ps3, its goin good with Russia.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:07 am

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Don't fuckin dare speak about Gorbachov that way, USSR was poorer back then, then now, it is, not good houses maybe be the Russians got all the cool Ipod stuff, cellphonese that rule, Wii.., Ps3, its goin good with Russia.

Ok, so 7 million starving kids mean nothing as long as iPods are being sold in Russia? If you're American that's awesome, for every fucking iPod sold in Russia you're not only injecting American culture to your worst enemy you're injecting money to your country.

Economically what you said makes no sense. And if you were a Russian, had at least some little empathy towards Russians or at least understood a little bit of how USSR work, how Russia worked druting the 1990's and how Russia is right now, you wouldn't even have a shed of respect for Gorbachyov, unless of course, you were a Russophobe.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:10 am

Oh no im hurt by your words..whine whine.. omg please -.-

Anyways why were there so fuckin many inpendse countries after USSR collapse?
While your at it why did USSR build a wall in Berlin, cause there were afraid of goodness?
And dont dare you anwser me with the capatalists takein over Berlin, its actully from Germany not from both.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:12 am

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Don't fuckin dare speak about Gorbachov that way, USSR was poorer back then, then now, it is, not good houses maybe be the Russians got all the cool Ipod stuff, cellphonese that rule, Wii.., Ps3, its goin good with Russia.

You dont understand or know worth jack SHIT about Gorby. Many Russians hate that bastard and like Zealot said, "A Russian even punched him in the face".

PS3s? Game systems? Cellphones?! Oh please. All of that is a tool to blind society into destroying each other. I've seen it simply TOO much to leave alone. Communism intends to change it for the better.

Your bourgise shit makes me want to throw up.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:14 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
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Don't fuckin dare speak about Gorbachov that way, USSR was poorer back then, then now, it is, not good houses maybe be the Russians got all the cool Ipod stuff, cellphonese that rule, Wii.., Ps3, its goin good with Russia.

You dont understand or know worth jack SHIT about Gorby. Many Russians hate that bastard and like Zealot said, "A Russian even punched him in the face".

PS3s? Game systems? Cellphones?! Oh please. All of that is a tool to blind society into destroying each other. I've seen it simply TOO much to leave alone. Communism intends to change it for the better.

Your bourgise shit makes me want to throw up.

Only hear whining, so you wanted that the USSR would be still exsited?

If so you couldnt go there u know, only politcal b!tches.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:22 am

The USSR was infinitely better than capitalist countries. That is a fact in itself because despite all the political repression, everybody had a decent living standard. Every person I have met who knows a THING or two about USSR said it was MUCH better than America.

So f**k you and your rich bullshit. The poor can't do anything BECAUSE they have already fallen.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:23 am

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So f**k you and your rich bullshit. The poor can't do anything BECAUSE they have already fallen.

ok wtf are you talking about, im not even rich O.o

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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:30 am

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Oh no im hurt by your words..whine whine.. omg please -.-

Like I intended to hurt you. Like someone without capability to empathize was able to get hurt.

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Anyways why were there so fuckin many inpendse countries after USSR collapse?

Because of the great unstability product of the Stablishment of Socialist State Capitalism and its degeneration by the idiotic Gorbachyov.
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While your at it why did USSR build a wall in Berlin, cause there were afraid of goodness?
To prevent people from going out. Divide a city and expect to divide families and friends.

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And dont dare you anwser me with the capatalists takein over Berlin, its actully from Germany not from both.

Another senseless statement.

You've got quite a flawed understanding of economy CoolKidX.... Your logic seems to go as something like "social well being is proportional to the ammount of f an cy gadgets population can buy, specially if they're western and their buyers aren't".
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PostSubject: Re: What do you capitalist think?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:36 am

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Because of the great unstability product of the Stablishment of Socialist State Capitalism and its degeneration by the idiotic Gorbachyov.
There were taken over, like Poland was never with USSR after the WW 2.
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While your at it why did USSR build a wall in Berlin, cause there were afraid of goodness?
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
To prevent people from going out. Divide a city and expect to divide families and friends.
That is a fuckin dumb reason, from going out...no freedom of movement...why are they afraid of ppl going out?



Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Another senseless statement.

You've got quite a flawed understanding of economy CoolKidX.... Your logic seems to go as something like "social well being is proportional to the ammount of f an cy gadgets population can buy, specially if they're western and their buyers aren't".

I was refering to that you all think its so fckn crappy in Russia of capatlism but in real they just buy fancy gadgets yes.

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