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Was it right to ban mattabesta for this reason?
Yes
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No
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Other
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PostSubject: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:33 pm

Mattabesta has been banned for using the Swastika in his signature.

Opinions?


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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:35 pm

of course it was! thanks god!!! we must stop acepting his provokations! this time he was going to far, in many countrys you go to jail for this shit!

it was damn right to do that cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:36 pm

Wem no, Tyrlop posted it to..so i dont see why he dostn gets a poll..

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 pm

I see someone voted no.... unfundamented votes won't be taken seriously.

Tyrlop posted it on spamistan, Mattabesta has it as signature.


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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 pm

he goes to far, it was a provocation, this is even against international law! this is not a "lets do a poll" thing

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:43 pm

you all defend this damn bastard, in this forum even the socialist and communist defended him and downplay things, even a SS officer you dont called a nazi and dont wannted to send him to gulag (see gulag forum)

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:45 pm

No. Crud, was that even the Nazi symbol, as opposed to the Hindu one?
Either way, he has the right to freedom of expression. At least, he should. Why allow the hammer and sickle but ban the swastika?

Sure, it was provocation. There's no need to give him the satisfaction of reaction.


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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:46 pm

To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.
Or as Stos says, use it for relgion or anything that direction.

You should ask him before judging.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:48 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.

You should ask him before judging.

he wannted to provocate, this symbol like he maked it is banned and against internation law, so stop downplay thinks and see twhat is real

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:48 pm

Check the spamistan thread to see the real sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:49 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.

You should ask him before judging.

he wannted to provocate, this symbol like he maked it is banned and against internation law, so stop downplay thinks and see twhat is real

Did you ask him?
If not, we have to wait before judging, guy.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:49 pm

it was not the real nazistic swastika, it was the budistik
Nazi swastika


buddhism swastika (neutral)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_i3oUDzNGM2g/RtwntB2HguI/AAAAAAAABF4/_EOoBNXtnkg/Picture+239.jpg
The Swastika is a sacred symbol, a symbol of peace, to Hindus, Buddhists and Jains. Prior to Nazi Germany it was also a “good luck” symbol in the west.
Jackie Bouvier (later Jackie Kennedy/Onassis) Mandir in the UKThe image to the left shows Jackie Bouvier (later Jackie Kennedy/Onassis) as a child dressed in a costume which included a swastika. More images of swastikas can be seen at the “reclaim the swastika” site. These include more pre-Nazi western swastikas, such as 1920s Coca Cola lucky key ring. Hindus still use the swastika today. The picture to the right shows a swastika symbol in a modern UK Hindu mandir. The swastika is behind a Murti of Ganesh, and the swastika is associated with Ganesh and good luck.





support the reclaim of the swastika.
http://reclaimtheswastika.com/photos/
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:51 pm

How do you differentiate? What is the context?
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:52 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.

You should ask him before judging.

he wannted to provocate, this symbol like he maked it is banned and against internation law, so stop downplay thinks and see twhat is real

Did you ask him?
If not, we have to wait before judging, guy.
What does it matter how he used it?
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:54 pm

Stos wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.

You should ask him before judging.

he wannted to provocate, this symbol like he maked it is banned and against internation law, so stop downplay thinks and see twhat is real

Did you ask him?
If not, we have to wait before judging, guy.
What does it matter how he used it?

It does, because in this forum apertnly you can't have a "nazi symbol".
Tough it can be free speech.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:55 pm

and you belive that shit that he wannted to represent them, you now what he wont, i dont fucking now why you defending him, you now what he wannted and you still try to defend him at any cost...

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:56 pm

RedSoviet wrote:
and you belive that shit that he wannted to represent them, you now what he wont, i dont fucking now why you defending him, you now what he wannted and you still try to defend him at any cost...

I dont want ppl to be banned while having a unclear reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:56 pm

well it was not the nazi swastika, it has to be: schwarz, weis und rot like the old german flag. and the swastika has to be tiped, and there has to be a cirkel around the swastika. so no, but ban him for having to big signature Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:56 pm

We should still vote against it.
I mean, come on. What are you going to do now?
'Hey, matt, is that swastika in your sig the Nazi symbol? If it is, we'll ban you, if not, you're fine'?
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:00 pm

it is not becaus its not tipped and dont got cirkel.
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:00 pm

Stos wrote:
We should still vote against it.
I mean, come on. What are you going to do now?
'Hey, matt, is that swastika in your sig the Nazi symbol? If it is, we'll ban you, if not, you're fine'?

Yes its pretty much that way.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:59 pm

Stos wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
To know for you.

It is part a nazi symbol!

You do not know if mattabesta had nazi meanings of this.

"Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck."

He could represent one of those.
Sun,power etc. or any ohter means of it.

You should ask him before judging.

he wannted to provocate, this symbol like he maked it is banned and against internation law, so stop downplay thinks and see twhat is real

Did you ask him?
If not, we have to wait before judging, guy.
What does it matter how he used it?
yes if its tilted its bad, but other wise it is ok to use.
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:07 am

If he can justify his usage of the symbol then NO but we all know it was just to piss us off
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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:43 am

Apparently i missed all this, but if Matt's gone, i'm not going to question my blessings.

RedSoviet wrote:
this is even against international law!

And?.... What makes international law just? I hardly think this is anything for someone here to be judged by.

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PostSubject: Re: Banned for use of Nazi symbols   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:51 am

Anarchist.Dagger wrote:
Apparently i missed all this, but if Matt's gone, i'm not going to question my blessings.

RedSoviet wrote:
this is even against international law!

And?.... What makes international law just? I hardly think this is anything for someone here to be judged by.
yea RedSoviet listen to KMFDM.

Ripping the System includes some times breaking International law. and by the way, it actually isn't international law, only illegal in Germany and Poland that I know of. In the US you can walk around in a SS uniform waving a swastika with no problems what so ever, I have walked around with a swastika, but not an SS uniform though. (we were playing Air Soft and it was USSR VS Third Reich).
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