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Stos
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PostSubject: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 07, 2008 2:39 pm

Artificial inflation is ftw.

Anyways...

2 points
Explain communism in at least one sentence:
Public ownership of the means of production. Of course, this means that it would be classless. A word used by Marx and Engels in the Manifesto due to the fact that 'socialism' at the time was used to refer to the utopian socialists, such as Fourier.

2 points
Explain socialism in at least one sentence:
Public ownership of the means of production. Of course, this means that it would be classless.

2 points
Explain capitalism in at least one sentence:
Private ownership of the means of production (and probably, though it's not necessarily a part of the definition, of the government, media, and law) by capitalists. I'm assuming I don't have to go into detail about the implications (exploitation, poverty, etc)?

2 points
Explain democracy in at least one sentence:
Dictatorship of the majority.

2 points
Explain dictatorship in at least one sentence:
...Ehehehe...
Rule by one person in general usage. Can be used loosely to indicate rule by a certain demographic, for example, 'dictatorship of the proletariat' or 'dictatorship of the majority'.

2 points
Name at least one communist country:
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2 points
How many communist countries exist currently?
None.

2 points
What kind of economic system is there currently in EU countries?
(type the name of the system)
Welfare capitalism. Well, until the workers settle down and fall in line, at least.

2 points
Give a scenario when each of the following is bad:
dictatorship, democracy

Dictatorship: When the dictator sucks.
Democracy: When the majority of the people suck.

2 points
What are the strengths and weaknesses of free market and centrally planned economy.

Free market:
Strength: It's awesome if you're a capitalist, or born into a capitalist family
Weaknesses: Exploitation, wage slavery, poverty, poor or unsafe working conditions, etc.

Centrally planned economy:
Strengths: It can be a democracy (or something close, eg. democracy with a constitution. Of course, the US system is a plutocracy in practice, and a republic in theory, but hardly a democracy), where production would thusly be for use more than profit.
Weaknesses: It could be the USSR. Which sucked.
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PostSubject: Re: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 07, 2008 2:58 pm

Nope the site wont be diffrent if you joined it.
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RedSoviet
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PostSubject: Re: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeTue Oct 07, 2008 5:41 pm

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Kenzu
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Location : Austria - Vienna

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PostSubject: Re: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 11, 2008 11:40 pm

Every member shapes this site. WR is what it is because of its members. Even when sometimes WR might look like a rigid place, it tends to change sharply once every few months. Everyone can give suggestions and constructive criticism. Good ideas make the change.

YOU TEST

2 points
Explain communism in at least one sentence:
Public ownership of the means of production. Of course, this means that it would be classless. A word used by Marx and Engels in the Manifesto due to the fact that 'socialism' at the time was used to refer to the utopian socialists, such as Fourier.

1 points
Explain socialism in at least one sentence:
Public ownership of the means of production. Of course, this means that it would be classless.

ANSWER:
Socialism is de facto classless, because there is only the working class and no bourgeoisie, because everyone works and no one exploits. However it doesnt have to be owned by the state. There can be collective ownership, where workers own a share in the company, and there CAN be private ownership of factors of production as well. A person can for example own a restaurant. (Can, doesn't have to).



2 points
Explain capitalism in at least one sentence:
Private ownership of the means of production (and probably, though it's not necessarily a part of the definition, of the government, media, and law) by capitalists. I'm assuming I don't have to go into detail about the implications (exploitation, poverty, etc)?

ANSWER:
The most important part is that in capitalism the capitalist exploits his workers and employees.

2 points
Explain democracy in at least one sentence:
Dictatorship of the majority.

ANSWER:
That's exactly what it is! Perfect answer!

2 points
Explain dictatorship in at least one sentence:
...Ehehehe...
Rule by one person in general usage. Can be used loosely to indicate rule by a certain demographic, for example, 'dictatorship of the proletariat' or 'dictatorship of the majority'.

ANSWER
Dictatorship is the rule of one person or a small group of people.

2 points
Name at least one communist country:
-

2 points
How many communist countries exist currently?
None.

2 points
What kind of economic system is there currently in EU countries?
(type the name of the system)
Welfare capitalism. Well, until the workers settle down and fall in line, at least.

ANSWER:
It is actually called social democracy a mix between socialism and capitalism, but your answer counts too.


2 points
Give a scenario when each of the following is bad:
dictatorship, democracy

Dictatorship: When the dictator sucks.
Democracy: When the majority of the people suck.

1.5 points
What are the strengths and weaknesses of free market and centrally planned economy.

Free market:
Strength: It's awesome if you're a capitalist, or born into a capitalist family
Weaknesses: Exploitation, wage slavery, poverty, poor or unsafe working conditions, etc.

Centrally planned economy:
Strengths: It can be a democracy (or something close, eg. democracy with a constitution. Of course, the US system is a plutocracy in practice, and a republic in theory, but hardly a democracy), where production would thusly be for use more than profit.
Weaknesses: It could be the USSR. Which sucked.

ANSWER:
You didnt explain why it "sucked" in USSR. You should mention that the system lacked incentives which would support more effort. Too little incentives were given and the system was too bureaucratic.


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Alek4A
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PostSubject: Re: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 11, 2008 11:55 pm

im fond of you stos, I'd be happy to see you komsomol
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Stos
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PostSubject: Re: Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol?   Would this site be different if I joined Komsomol? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 11, 2008 11:55 pm

Capitalism is capitalism. 'Social democracy' is capitalism, ergo, not socialism.
"Socialism is that social system under which the necessaries of production are owned, controlled, and administered by the people, for the people, and under which, accordingly, the cause of political and economic despotism having been abolished, class rule is at end. -- That is socialism, nothing short of that."

Also, why give different marks for communism and socialism? They're the same thing, so why should the same description not work for both?

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Dictatorship is the rule of one person or a small group of people.
Not necessarily, only in modern usage. For example, Marx's 'dictatorship of the proletariat' wasn't 'one person' or a 'small group' at all.
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Kenzu
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