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Kenzu
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PostSubject: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 12:32 am

ANOTHER SOCIALIST VICTORY!

http://science.orf.at/science/news/152668

After 8 years of paid university education, it becomes free of charge in Austria again.

This reform had been passed by the following parties
SPÖ - Social democratic party (moderate left wing)
Grüne - Green party (moderate left wing)
FPÖ - Freedom party (right wing)

The following parties were agains the reform:
ÖVP - People's party (moderate right wing)
BZÖ - Austria's Future (right wing)


Now, only citizens of non EU countries have to pay the fee, which has been halved for them. EU citizens have only to pay the fee, if they study more than a year longer than the preset study length.

This semester is the last semester I paid my fee of 370 Euros per semester!

Our Student Union was fighting hard to achieve this goal!

Finally it has been achieved!



PS: There were elections in October and all the parties, except BZÖ, were propagating that they support a SOCIAL WELFARE STATE, even the right wing FPÖ promoted the idea.

One of the FPÖ slogans was: SOCIAL INSTEAD OF SOCIALIST
Funny, isn't it? The more social it gets, the more socialist it is!
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 12:36 am

That's a great thing for Austria Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 12:36 am

Great, keep it out of our movement, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 4:21 am

I wish the US governemnt was that sensible.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 5:13 am

wow free university? in the US cost like $400,000 to attend (out of state) and 60,000 a year if it is in your state. (so 100,000 a year out of state) and my family has just a few thousand dollars, but it's ok cause I'm not gonna attend college right after Highschool so I will have my own money.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 5:20 am

Liche wrote:
wow free university? in the US cost like $400,000 to attend (out of state) and 60,000 a year if it is in your state. (so 100,000 a year out of state) and my family has just a few thousand dollars, but it's ok cause I'm not gonna attend college right after Highschool so I will have my own money.
where? Harvard?

I am getting a free ride but the avg cost for tutition is 35k.. >>
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 5:42 am

In state, but in VA in state is 60,000. (UVA, V-Tech, etc...) their are shit schools, but I'm not even sure if I'm going to college. My brother is but first hes gonna go to NOVA.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 6:18 pm

If i rember in Holland its free to, but also a part by your self, and you egt some money evry month from the gov when your at collega..
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 6:45 pm

also here. free and u get SU if you are 18 and study, money for food etc but its very little.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 6:55 pm

Kenzu wrote:
ANOTHER SOCIALIST VICTORY!

[...]

One of the FPÖ slogans was: SOCIAL INSTEAD OF SOCIALIST
Funny, isn't it? The more social it gets, the more socialist it is!
Nobody takes issue to this bit?
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 6:57 pm

Kenzu, do you really think that's a socialist victory? I'm pretty convinced that socialism doesn't stand for the "distribution of capitalist wealth".
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 8:07 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Kenzu, do you really think that's a socialist victory? I'm pretty convinced that socialism doesn't stand for the "distribution of capitalist wealth".

but its a good step
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 10:13 pm

Liche wrote:
wow free university? in the US cost like $400,000 to attend (out of state) and 60,000 a year if it is in your state. (so 100,000 a year out of state) and my family has just a few thousand dollars, but it's ok cause I'm not gonna attend college right after Highschool so I will have my own money.
yeah not even harverd is that much dude
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeSun Oct 12, 2008 11:41 pm

100k a year. but most people get a scholarship which lowers it to around 75k a year.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 2:35 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Kenzu, do you really think that's a socialist victory? I'm pretty convinced that socialism doesn't stand for the "distribution of capitalist wealth".

While a socialist state is better than a social welfare state, a social welfare state is nonetheless better than a capitalist state.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 4:36 am

oligarch wrote:

While a socialist state is better than a social welfare state, a social welfare state is nonetheless better than a capitalist state.

Which doesn't mean it is a socialist victory.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 4:42 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
oligarch wrote:

While a socialist state is better than a social welfare state, a social welfare state is nonetheless better than a capitalist state.

Which doesn't mean it is a socialist victory.
Oligarch is saying it is one step closer to being a Socialist victory, Socialism doesn't happen over night (unless theirs a military Coup)
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 4:45 am

Liche wrote:


Oligarch is saying it is one step closer to being a Socialist victory, Socialism doesn't happen over night (unless theirs a military Coup)

And I'm just saying it's not a socialist victory.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 6:51 am

"One small step for Austria, one giant leap for Socialism"
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 9:43 am

Liche wrote:
"One small step for Austria, one giant leap for Socialism"

O rly?
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeMon Oct 13, 2008 11:01 am

Liche wrote:
"One small step for Austria, one giant leap for Socialism"
Not at all.

oligarch wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Kenzu, do you really think that's a socialist victory? I'm pretty convinced that socialism doesn't stand for the "distribution of capitalist wealth".

While a socialist state is better than a social welfare state, a social welfare state is nonetheless better than a capitalist state.
Welfare capitalism is still capitalism.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 12:07 am

i should move there... theres no way i'm affording college here No
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 2:26 am

welfare is just a petty gift from the bourgeoisie.
i really dont think welfare capitalism is better then regular capitialism.
if anything it is worse.
it creates ruts, in which people get comfortable in.
someone doesnt work they still have steady income, ergo where is motivation to work?
and welfare abuse is a completely different beast.
wooo looks like my broke ass is going to austria, hailey too Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 5:35 am

Liche wrote:
"One small step for Austria, one giant leap for Socialism"

Actually, I think its the other way around.
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PostSubject: Re: Free education in Austria again!   Free education in Austria again! Icon_minitimeTue Oct 14, 2008 5:42 am

oligarch wrote:
Liche wrote:
"One small step for Austria, one giant leap for Socialism"

Actually, I think its the other way around.
touche

I thought about reversing it earlier but I was like nah no one will correct it.
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