Proposing dissolving inactive parties

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calinis wrote:

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stalinism maoism, all that shit is just a joke.

No, it's part of sections of marxism. The majority of communists on sites like revleft think highly of Stalin. Now why would that be, as killing people is the antithesis of equality? (No sarcasm intended, I'm asking a legitimate question.)

Speaking as someone who was on Revleft quite a bit until about a year ago, that's fucking retarded!! There are a lot more stalinists than there are here, but look at the size of that site fool. Stalinists make up a very small portion. Most of the people there are either Marxists, MLists or anarchists (hell, there're probably more reactionaries than stalinists). So why don't you not talk out your ass, okay?

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Hutin wrote:

We're 5 fucking active bonapartists. We'll gonna be more in no time. The anarchists are like 2 active members , 3 when weiwuwei occasionaly comes.

Just get over your infantility and fucking join the AR. How fucking specific does it have to get? Even the rightists should be appalled by sectarianism... liberal republicans, christ.

\polishing the brass on the titanic bc, thats all it is.

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Speaking as someone who was on Revleft quite a bit until about a year ago, that's fucking retarded!! There are a lot more stalinists than there are here, but look at the size of that site fool. Stalinists make up a very small portion. Most of the people there are either Marxists, MLists or anarchists (hell, there're probably more reactionaries than stalinists). So why don't you not talk out your ass, okay?

Nope, not true. There were tons of people prasing Stalin on there and even denying the fact that the Soviet Union was imperalist, lol. I was on that site, too, for quite awhile, until I was banned for no reason. Probably because they like to ban people for no reason, probably because they are Stalinist.

calinis wrote:

Nope, not true. There were tons of people prasing Stalin on there and even denying the fact that the Soviet Union was imperalist, lol. I was on that site, too, for quite awhile, until I was banned for no reason. Probably because they like to ban people for no reason, probably because they are Stalinist.

Hmm, probably cos the site's called RevLeft, and you're neither. Think of it this way. What if you were just chillin at a jazz bar, and some asshole started playing death metal over the speakers? You get it?

Now, let's do a roll call.

Revleft anarchists: 136 registered to the user group.

Revleft Marxists and IMT's: 63 and 14 registered, respectively.

Revleft Stalinists and Anti-revisionists (some are stalinists): ... 28 each, consisting of the same core members, i'm sure.

If you wish to fail any further, be my fucking guest. I think everyone here already knows you don't take kindly to facts and statistics, sooo....

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Hmm, probably cos the site's called RevLeft, and you're neither. Think of it this way. What if you were just chillin at a jazz bar, and some asshole started playing death metal over the speakers? You get it?

Then what's with the opposing ideologies section? I should be allowed to join if I want to

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Revleft Stalinists and Anti-revisionists (some are stalinists): ... 28 each, consisting of the same core members, i'm sure.

Those statistics seem odd. Where did you get them from? Because it must have changed dramatically since when I was there, when almost everyone defended Stalin....hmmm that's odd, isn't it?

calinis wrote:

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Hmm, probably cos the site's called RevLeft, and you're neither. Think of it this way. What if you were just chillin at a jazz bar, and some asshole started playing death metal over the speakers? You get it?

Then what's with the opposing ideologies section? I should be allowed to join if I want to

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Revleft Stalinists and Anti-revisionists (some are stalinists): ... 28 each, consisting of the same core members, i'm sure.

Those statistics seem odd. Where did you get them from? Because it must have changed dramatically since when I was there, when almost everyone defended Stalin....hmmm that's odd, isn't it?

actually the op ideo section is their quarintine.

look at the group list.
fuckcalinis, you really just have failed so hard.

They could have just banned them instead.

People who aren't Stalinists have sympathizes to him, I think.

Most do.

Also why arent the stalinists restricted as well?

Oh riiiight because everyone else likes them and agrees.

calinis wrote:

They could have just banned them instead.

People who aren't Stalinists have sympathizes to him, I think.

Most do.

Also why arent the stalinists restricted as well?

Oh riiiight because everyone else likes them and agrees.

do i sympothize with stalin or mao or hoxha?

you should learn your shit before you start making absurd claims like that you fukingidiot.

i know it would come
(im am to coherent)
if you wanna delete the green party, im game, i mean it is logical, i am noly one while the other partyes have2-5

oligarch wrote:

I agree there are too many inactive parties but I think we should lose the Soc Dems as there are no active members.

I think another good idea would be to create about four new user groups(i.e. Radical Left, Centre-Left, Centre-Right, Radical Right) that you become a member of upon joining certain parties(Communist and Socialist parties would be Radical Left, Conservative Republicans would be Centre-Right etc,) but can be joined without becoming a member a party.

The social democrats will stay as this movement is one of the oldest and at the same time it is the strongest of all movements in Europe. Most of our German members are social democrats and they often post on our German forum, Their party wont be dissolved.

@Zealot
Green parties around Europe achieve high support in the elections. Nordic green parties are socialist at the same time and their flags are red and green. In the other countries they have positioned themselves as moderate left, becomming a left alternative to socialist and communist parties especially in west europe.

i think it would be alot better if green became a guild

calinis wrote:

Those statistics seem odd. Where did you get them from? Because it must have changed dramatically since when I was there, when almost everyone defended Stalin....hmmm that's odd, isn't it?

It's available to anyone, even guests on the site. It's not that hard to find. And no, it doesn't seem odd. It seems like you're just talkin out your ass like usual. I've been a member of that site for four years now, and i have no idea what the f**k you're talking about. That should tell you something (something that everyone else here already knows).

Kenzu wrote:

@Zealot
Green parties around Europe achieve high support in the elections. Nordic green parties are socialist at the same time and their flags are red and green. In the other countries they have positioned themselves as moderate left, becomming a left alternative to socialist and communist parties especially in west europe.

There are green parties everywhere. Here in Mexico the green party is a political bitch (sorry but I don't find a better definition for that) which goes from extreme right wing to center-right but never gets closer to left than that.

Green simply doesn't have any political platform, either they're capitalist or are socialist but there's not "greenism" to call it in some way. Environmentalism is intrinsic to socialism just as sutainability making socialism an intrinsically environmentalist option. Based on that premise I could even argue that those calling themselves "green" are simply right-wingers with some concern on the environment.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

@Zealot
Green parties around Europe achieve high support in the elections. Nordic green parties are socialist at the same time and their flags are red and green. In the other countries they have positioned themselves as moderate left, becomming a left alternative to socialist and communist parties especially in west europe.

There are green parties everywhere. Here in Mexico the green party is a political bitch (sorry but I don't find a better definition for that) which goes from extreme right wing to center-right but never gets closer to left than that.

Green simply doesn't have any political platform, either they're capitalist or are socialist but there's not "greenism" to call it in some way. Environmentalism is intrinsic to socialism just as sutainability making socialism an intrinsically environmentalist option. Based on that premise I could even argue that those calling themselves "green" are simply right-wingers with some concern on the environment.

you doosh bag

how long this vote will go?

@enviro
poooooooooooooor

enviro wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

@Zealot
Green parties around Europe achieve high support in the elections. Nordic green parties are socialist at the same time and their flags are red and green. In the other countries they have positioned themselves as moderate left, becomming a left alternative to socialist and communist parties especially in west europe.

There are green parties everywhere. Here in Mexico the green party is a political bitch (sorry but I don't find a better definition for that) which goes from extreme right wing to center-right but never gets closer to left than that.

Green simply doesn't have any political platform, either they're capitalist or are socialist but there's not "greenism" to call it in some way. Environmentalism is intrinsic to socialism just as sutainability making socialism an intrinsically environmentalist option. Based on that premise I could even argue that those calling themselves "green" are simply right-wingers with some concern on the environment.

you doosh bag

nice spelling ass belonker.
honestly where does being an ecofascist fit into politics?

...sadly I believe national socialist

damn fascists, making my party look bad

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

ehh more less than so

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

Sadly I must agree with you on that one, most National Socialist have nothing Socialist about them, I however just want what the Title states, National Socialism. But most people think National Socialism = Fascism.

But then again most people think Communism = Evil.

Sill wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

ehh more less than so

really?
national socialist party
or socialist party?

which one has killed more.

think before you type bro.

Liche wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

Sadly I must agree with you on that one, most National Socialist have nothing Socialist about them, I however just want what the Title states, National Socialism. But most people think National Socialism = Fascism.

But then again most people think Communism = Evil.

most educated people know the difference between fascism and nazism.

why dont you call it social nationalism?

beatnikzach wrote:

Liche wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

Sadly I must agree with you on that one, most National Socialist have nothing Socialist about them, I however just want what the Title states, National Socialism. But most people think National Socialism = Fascism.

But then again most people think Communism = Evil.

most educated people know the difference between fascism and nazism.

why dont you call it social nationalism?

OH MY GOD! PERFECT IDEA!!!!

I love you Zach, huzzah For Social Nationalism!

Liche wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

Liche wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

Sadly I must agree with you on that one, most National Socialist have nothing Socialist about them, I however just want what the Title states, National Socialism. But most people think National Socialism = Fascism.

But then again most people think Communism = Evil.

most educated people know the difference between fascism and nazism.

why dont you call it social nationalism?

OH MY GOD! PERFECT IDEA!!!!

I love you Zach, huzzah For Social Nationalism!

thank you thank you
i love you too liche.

beatnikzach wrote:

Liche wrote:

beatnikzach wrote:

hahah more like
damn national socialists making my party look bad.

Sadly I must agree with you on that one, most National Socialist have nothing Socialist about them, I however just want what the Title states, National Socialism. But most people think National Socialism = Fascism.

But then again most people think Communism = Evil.

most educated people know the difference between fascism and nazism.

why dont you call it social nationalism?

Nazism is fascism.

no its not.
what have you read that has lead you to believe that?