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Renegade_Kautsky
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PostSubject: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:23 am

Capitalism is by it's very nature imperialistic. Why make an empire in name when you can make one with the facade of democracy? In a capitalist representative democracy, anyone with power can be bought and thus made to make policy the way the rich (patricians) want it. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:31 am

That's why I think that political democracy requires economic democracy and just as political democracy requires political equality, economic democracy requires economic equality.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:33 am

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
Capitalism is by it's very nature imperialistic. Why make an empire in name when you can make one with the facade of democracy? In a capitalist representative democracy, anyone with power can be bought and thus made to make policy the way the rich (patricians) want it. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
humm I agree anyone with money has worked hard and deservs power.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:35 am

mattabesta wrote:

humm I agree anyone with money has worked hard and deservs power.

A person having money is usually the greatest indicator that they have never had money and should never have power.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:36 am

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mattabesta wrote:

humm I agree anyone with money has worked hard and deservs power.

A person having money is usually the greatest indicator that they have never had money and should never have power.
if they have money they worked hard or got lucky, hower the latter is unlikely.
Rich pepole arnīt bad just posh.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:40 am

mattabesta wrote:

if they have money they worked hard or got lucky, hower the latter is unlikely.
Rich pepole arnīt bad just posh.

Most of them are and almost no one with money worked hard. If you have money that means you got rich by selling the products of other people's labour and if you don't have money that means you worked hard and someone else made al the money.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:47 am

oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

if they have money they worked hard or got lucky, hower the latter is unlikely.
Rich pepole arnīt bad just posh.

Most of them are and almost no one with money worked hard. If you have money that means you got rich by selling the products of other people's labour and if you don't have money that means you worked hard and someone else made al the money.
yah but you worked hard with your wits to sell those products.
working hard isn't just phsicall it's using your brain
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:50 am

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working hard isn't just phsicall it's using your brain

No, working hard means physical labour. Plenty of proletarians are smart but their social class doesn't allow them to use it to rise. And just because some one is naturally unwitty doesn't mean they should be made to toil all their life.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello?   Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:53 am

oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:

working hard isn't just phsicall it's using your brain

No, working hard means physical labour. Plenty of proletarians are smart but their social class doesn't allow them to use it to rise. And just because some one is naturally unwitty doesn't mean they should be made to toil all their life.
evryone has the same feild to become rich or famus you nutcrack.
what your talking about was 60 years ago.
yes unwitty pepole are ignorant pepole and should have payed attension in class.
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