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PostSubject: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:06 am

Have you guys seriously never heard of it? Because it seems to me you claim everybody who is not communist to not be Socialist, or even Leftist.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:11 am

wow your new avi hurts my eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:16 am

liche stards realy to sucks

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:52 am

Please specify who "you guys" are.

Is that picture supposed to be a combination of a swastika and the symbol of Anarchy? That really doesn't make any sence.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:52 am

RedSoviet wrote:
liche stards realy to sucks
ive heard of it. and redsoviet, hes saying that their is a anti-communist left, why you say he "stards realy to sucks"

and i like his new avi, structural anarchism ftw!
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:53 am

MightyObserver wrote:
Please specify who "you guys" are.

Is that picture supposed to be a combination of a swastika and the symbol of Anarchy? That really doesn't make any sence.

Go to suggestions, than click the one that says suggestion (Lol) that will explain everything, it makes perfect sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:55 am

THIS IS THE WEIRDEST THREAD EVUR
BUT IT HAS MY ENDORSMENT
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:59 am

Sill wrote:
MightyObserver wrote:
Please specify who "you guys" are.

Is that picture supposed to be a combination of a swastika and the symbol of Anarchy? That really doesn't make any sence.

Go to suggestions, than click the one that says suggestion (Lol) that will explain everything, it makes perfect sense.

Anarcho-nazism? Congradulations, you have earned the fullest degree of hatred and descrimination I could possibley imagine coming from the U.S.. I seriously couldn't imagine people here hating you more than if you found a way to mix Communist ideals in.


But as far as the focus of this thread is concerned, yes, I am aware that their are leftists who aren't Communists.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:00 am

everyone knows people who are
i mean is is pretty common
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:35 am

Fundamentally I consider myself a member of the anti-Communist left. I'd defend a Communist society before a Capitalist one, but the methods to approaching said society is what makes me anti-Communist.

There are multitudes of people on the left who could be referred to as anti-Communist; specifically, they're all either one of the following two: A.) some left-wing variant of Anarchist or B.) a Socialist who doesn't believe in "transitory" Socialism, someone who believes in Socialism as an end, not as a means.

So yes, an anti-Communist left exists. And no, they're not reactionary.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:40 am

by you guys, I mostly mean Zealot and Stos, they use to be cool Sad but they probably say the same about me Razz

and we aren't Racist so why do you hate us. educate your self oh mighty observer.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:44 am

Liche wrote:
by you guys, I mostly mean Zealot and Stos, they use to be cool Sad but they probably say the same about me Razz

and we aren't Racist so why do you hate us. educate your self oh mighty observer.

How DARE you lump me in with the rest of the United States! I don't hate you in the slightest.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:54 am

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Fundamentally I consider myself a member of the anti-Communist left. I'd defend a Communist society before a Capitalist one, but the methods to approaching said society is what makes me anti-Communist.

What's the methods to approach a communist society according to your understanding?

WeiWuWei wrote:

There are multitudes of people on the left who could be referred to as anti-Communist; specifically, they're all either one of the following two: A.) some left-wing variant of Anarchist

Further elaborate please.

WeiWuWei wrote:

or B.) a Socialist who doesn't believe in "transitory" Socialism, someone who believes in Socialism as an end, not as a means.

Considering socialism is refered to by many as "just another way to call communism" I'd like you to elaborate on what you'd understand as socialism in that sense.


WeiWuWei wrote:

So yes, an anti-Communist left exists. And no, they're not reactionary.

I'm convinced that the only way through which a leftist can be anti-communist is either by lack of understanding of said leftist towards communism or by simply having too moderate ideas (in other words, a reformist).

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:54 am

MightyObserver wrote:
Liche wrote:
by you guys, I mostly mean Zealot and Stos, they use to be cool Sad but they probably say the same about me Razz

and we aren't Racist so why do you hate us. educate your self oh mighty observer.

How DARE you lump me in with the rest of the United States! I don't hate you in the slightest.
Oh I'm sorry read your post wrong Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:03 am

Tons of people are liberals and they aren't communist.
Watch me, I'm homosexual and I suck cocks.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:45 am

WeiWuWei wrote:
There are multitudes of people on the left who could be referred to as anti-Communist; specifically, they're all either one of the following two: A.) some left-wing variant of Anarchist or B.) a Socialist who doesn't believe in "transitory" Socialism, someone who believes in Socialism as an end, not as a means.
Marx believed in socialism as an end.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:56 am

calinis wrote:
Tons of people are liberals and they aren't communist.

Liberals are the Right Calinis Razz just not the Conservative right.

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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:54 pm

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Tons of people are liberals and they aren't communist.
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Calinis you dumbfuck....
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:58 pm

Yes, we have anarchists, who are not socialists. Then we have stupid anarchists, who are anti-socialist.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:52 pm

Liche wrote:
Have you guys seriously never heard of it? Because it seems to me you claim everybody who is not communist to not be Socialist, or even Leftist.

Social Democrats are left wing, and are de facto not supporting communism, some of social democratic parties wouldn't ever form a government with communist parties. They could be considered anti-communist. It is not talked about as frequently as typical anti-communists, which are the right wing.

I think "anti-communist left" is just a big joke. A bunch of opportunists, who use populism and the slogans of the left to take power and betray their people with capitalist reforms.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:54 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Liche wrote:
Have you guys seriously never heard of it? Because it seems to me you claim everybody who is not communist to not be Socialist, or even Leftist.

Social Democrats are left wing, and are de facto not supporting communism, some of social democratic parties wouldn't ever form a government with communist parties. They could be considered anti-communist. It is not talked about as frequently as typical anti-communists, which are the right wing.
They are anti-communist. They get their free healthcare from the blood of workers far away.
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PostSubject: Re: Anti-Communist Left   Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:13 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Liche wrote:
Have you guys seriously never heard of it? Because it seems to me you claim everybody who is not communist to not be Socialist, or even Leftist.

Social Democrats are left wing, and are de facto not supporting communism, some of social democratic parties wouldn't ever form a government with communist parties. They could be considered anti-communist. It is not talked about as frequently as typical anti-communists, which are the right wing.

I think "anti-communist left" is just a big joke. A bunch of opportunists, who use populism and the slogans of the left to take power and betray their people with capitalist reforms.

yes but they are a organization, right?
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