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PostSubject: Re: Is my geography book wrong?   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:36 pm

MightyObserver wrote:
In my geography book (for school) one can find this passage listed under 'Economic systems':

Comand Economy When an economic system is controlled by a single, central government, it is called a command economy. Nearly all economic decisions are made by government leaders exerting authoritarian control. The government decides what and how much to produce, where economic activities will be located, and what prices will be charged for goods and services.

In a command economy, decisions are often made to acheive social or political goals. For example, it may cost $1 to produce a quart of orange juice, but the price may be set at only 25 cents to make sure that all consumers are able to afford adequate supplies of juice.

One example of a command economy is communism. Under a Communist economy, the state owns and operates all the major farms, factories, utilities, and stores. government planners decide what products are made, how much workers will be paid, and how much things will cost. Because of their centralized economic planning, Communist systems are also called plan economies.

Again, this is from a school book from which I am supposed to... er... learn things. I decided to post this here because I question the validity of the third paragraph.

First 2 paragraphs are correct, but there can be a command economy in a country with a democratically elected government as well.

The last paragraph is wrong, mainly because the writer has no clue what communism is. First of all, property belongs to people in communist states, government and money isn't necessary. No one decides how much each will be paid, because the salary of all workers is 0 and all prices are de facto 0 as well. And the last thing is that there was no communist economy and no communist system. Leading communist parties were operating conservative socialist systems.

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PostSubject: Re: Is my geography book wrong?   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:49 pm

Also kenzu a communist system dosn'T have too be a centrally planned one nor doe it have to be like you just said.

also cut the Bshit about no goverment and that shit, it hasn't happend and it won't, why becuse it can't. humans are opportunistic creatures and we don'T cooperate unless we benifit. in communism if I get and idear for something what can I do with it,
option 1: let the goverment have it and gain nothing.
option 2: let the goverment have it and gain nothing.
option 3 use it yourselfe and operete on a black market.
In capitalism you can:
option 1: use it yourself
option 2: sell it too someone.

also money exists becuse we need it and if not money then something else, like sand, man has always found something to trade with and abolishing the dollar won't change that.
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PostSubject: Re: Is my geography book wrong?   Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:56 pm

mattabesta wrote:
Also kenzu a communist system dosn'T have too be a centrally planned one nor doe it have to be like you just said.

Communism is planned, not centrally, but it is planned.

mattabesta wrote:


also cut the Bshit about no goverment and that shit, it hasn't happend and it won't, why becuse it can't. humans are opportunistic creatures and we don'T cooperate unless we benifit.

That's precisely the point of communism: to benefit.

mattabesta wrote:

in communism if I get and idear for something what can I do with it,
option 1: let the goverment have it and gain nothing.
option 2: let the goverment have it and gain nothing.
option 3 use it yourselfe and operete on a black market.

Which government? You mean the people? That's how social beings work.

mattabesta wrote:

In capitalism you can:
option 1: use it yourself
option 2: sell it too someone.

That's pretty stupid, completely against the way a sane community should work.

mattabesta wrote:

also money exists becuse we need it and if not money then something else, like sand, man has always found something to trade with and abolishing the dollar won't change that.

Abolishing the dollar is not the point of communism. It is to abolish trade through industrial organization.

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