Serbs react to Kosovo independance,

Over 100,000 Serbians gathered in front of the Serbian parliament to protest the independence of Kosovo. Demonstrations were peaceful at first but quickly turned violent. The United States embassy was burnt down along with several other embassies as well as few shops. All were looted.

What are your thoughts?

Link to story:http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/91E52CBB-CD67-4316-B3AB-DCBD1DEEAD86.htm

Could have seen that coming.

oligarch wrote:

Could have seen that coming.

I agree, but I figured it was still worth posting.

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

Over 100,000 Serbians gathered in front of the Serbian parliament to protest the independence of Kosovo. Demonstrations were peaceful at first but quickly turned violent. The United States embassy was burnt down along with several other embassies as well as few shops. All were looted.

What are your thoughts?

Link to story:http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/91E52CBB-CD67-4316-B3AB-DCBD1DEEAD86.htm

well, thats to be expected, i'm intrested to see whats russia's next move

RedNation wrote:

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

Over 100,000 Serbians gathered in front of the Serbian parliament to protest the independence of Kosovo. Demonstrations were peaceful at first but quickly turned violent. The United States embassy was burnt down along with several other embassies as well as few shops. All were looted.

What are your thoughts?

Link to story:http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/91E52CBB-CD67-4316-B3AB-DCBD1DEEAD86.htm

well, thats to be expected, i'm intrested to see whats russia's next move

I believe Russia's official stance is on the side of Serbia against Kosovo independence.

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

RedNation wrote:

well, thats to be expected, i'm intrested to see whats russia's next move

I believe Russia's official stance is on the side of Serbia against Kosovo independence.

Of course it is, Russia started WW1 to protect Serbia(even though it wasn't Russia's fault).

oligarch wrote:

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

RedNation wrote:

well, thats to be expected, i'm intrested to see whats russia's next move

I believe Russia's official stance is on the side of Serbia against Kosovo independence.

Of course it is, Russia started WW1 to protect Serbia(even though it wasn't Russia's fault).

what?
it wasn't russias fault?
ofcourse it wasn't it was the serbs foult and the line of defencev pacts.

oligarch wrote:

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

RedNation wrote:

well, thats to be expected, i'm intrested to see whats russia's next move

I believe Russia's official stance is on the side of Serbia against Kosovo independence.

Of course it is, Russia started WW1 to protect Serbia(even though it wasn't Russia's fault).

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

kahnsguard wrote:

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

That's were you're wrong. First, the "Great War to end all Wars". Some guy named Archduke Fernidand (sp?) who was the King of Austria got assassinated by pistol by some crazy Muslim Serbia guy.

That's what started the entire war. Germany merely came to aid their ally, which was Austria back then. And the Russians aided the Serbs...after that, hell on Earth was offically unleashed.

As for WW2, Imperial Japan started all of it. They invaded Manchuria in 1937, violating a "peace pact" they "argeed" under China. The Japs just merely wanted moar resources for their country (not to mention THEY WERE IMPERIALIST ) and they sure as hell did a FINE job tearing up half the world before being stopped by the US.

The Imp Japs murdered over 20 million people before surrending. This included not only other Asians, but nationalities as far as Dutch and EVEN Russians! Ever heard of Unit 731? They vivisectioned people alive, sometimes with NONE of that "laughing gas"...

Then there is comfort women...

Germany "entered" the war in 1939, creating a false report that Poland have violated their border and attacked German soldiers (sorta like the "War in Iraq", ya know? "WMDs"?). Hitler, although he was a crazy insane-o man, wasn't as insane as Japan's Tojo...

What's even worse is that Japan hasn't admitted to any of their crimes and paid for them, while Germany is pretty much building freaking MONUMENTS to honor their victims...

But I guess nobody cares, because HEY!

Japanese stuff is sssoooo great, eh? *sarcasm*

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

kahnsguard wrote:

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

That's were you're wrong. First, the "Great War to end all Wars". Some guy named Archduke Fernidand (sp?) who was the King of Austria got assassinated by pistol by some crazy Muslim Serbia guy.

I thought he was an anarchist but I could be mistaken.

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That's what started the entire war. Germany merely came to aid their ally, which was Austria back then. And the Russians aided the Serbs...after that, hell on Earth was offically unleashed.

Not quite, Austria-Hungary was about to invade Serbia to as punishment but Russia declared a general mobilization of its troops in order to threaten Austria-Hungary with military action if they were to invade. Germany, being the major ally of Austria-Hungary used this as an excuse to start invading the countries around it; Britain was brought into the war when Germany invaded France because Russia mobilized its troops. It was largely Germany's fault WW1 was inevitable with the Victorian deterrent plan.

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As for WW2, Imperial Japan started all of it. They invaded Manchuria in 1937, violating a "peace pact" they "argeed" under China. The Japs just merely wanted moar resources for their country (not to mention THEY WERE IMPERIALIST ) and they sure as hell did a FINE job tearing up half the world before being stopped by the US.

The war began with Japan but it was isolated and was not a part of WW2 until Germany started the war in Europe.

And this is surprising because...

You really expect Serbian citizens to just stand by as Kosovo separates?

oligarch wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

kahnsguard wrote:

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

That's were you're wrong. First, the "Great War to end all Wars". Some guy named Archduke Fernidand (sp?) who was the King of Austria got assassinated by pistol by some crazy Muslim Serbia guy.

1.I thought he was an anarchist but I could be mistaken.

Quote :

That's what started the entire war. Germany merely came to aid their ally, which was Austria back then. And the Russians aided the Serbs...after that, hell on Earth was offically unleashed.

Not quite, Austria-Hungary was about to invade Serbia to as punishment but Russia declared a general mobilization of its troops in order to threaten Austria-Hungary with military action if they were to invade. Germany, being the major ally of Austria-Hungary used this as an excuse to start invading the countries around it; Britain was brought into the war when Germany invaded France because Russia mobilized its troops. It was largely Germany's fault WW1 was inevitable with the Victorian deterrent plan.

Quote :

As for WW2, Imperial Japan started all of it. They invaded Manchuria in 1937, violating a "peace pact" they "argeed" under China. The Japs just merely wanted moar resources for their country (not to mention THEY WERE IMPERIALIST ) and they sure as hell did a FINE job tearing up half the world before being stopped by the US.

The war began with Japan but it was isolated and was not a part of WW2 until Germany started the war in Europe.

1. he was the crown prince.
2. france was an ally of russi and britan was an ally of belgum.
general mobalysation means war just not now germany thouhght it could take france out in 2weeks by advancying trough belgum wich brought britan into the war.
just to mention it the russians took an avreg of 2 weeks to assembel so the germans got way into russia at the time.

WWI is not coused by germany but maynly russia and WW2 was coused by britan ad france how blew the german econamy and angerd the pepole ther.

mattabesta wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

kahnsguard wrote:

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

That's were you're wrong. First, the "Great War to end all Wars". Some guy named Archduke Fernidand (sp?) who was the King of Austria got assassinated by pistol by some crazy Muslim Serbia guy.

1.I thought he was an anarchist but I could be mistaken.

Quote :

That's what started the entire war. Germany merely came to aid their ally, which was Austria back then. And the Russians aided the Serbs...after that, hell on Earth was offically unleashed.

Not quite, Austria-Hungary was about to invade Serbia to as punishment but Russia declared a general mobilization of its troops in order to threaten Austria-Hungary with military action if they were to invade. Germany, being the major ally of Austria-Hungary used this as an excuse to start invading the countries around it; Britain was brought into the war when Germany invaded France because Russia mobilized its troops. It was largely Germany's fault WW1 was inevitable with the Victorian deterrent plan.

Quote :

As for WW2, Imperial Japan started all of it. They invaded Manchuria in 1937, violating a "peace pact" they "argeed" under China. The Japs just merely wanted moar resources for their country (not to mention THEY WERE IMPERIALIST ) and they sure as hell did a FINE job tearing up half the world before being stopped by the US.

The war began with Japan but it was isolated and was not a part of WW2 until Germany started the war in Europe.

1. he was the crown prince.
2. france was an ally of russi and britan was an ally of belgum.
general mobalysation means war just not now germany thouhght it could take france out in 2weeks by advancying trough belgum wich brought britan into the war.
just to mention it the russians took an avreg of 2 weeks to assembel so the germans got way into russia at the time.

WWI is not coused by germany but maynly russia and WW2 was coused by britan ad france how blew the german econamy and angerd the pepole ther.

Its hard to say exactly which imperialist power was the most responsible but it was caused by imperialism and the ruling calsses of Europe and later those of North America and Oceania.

oligarch wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

kahnsguard wrote:

I thought the Germans started both world wars.

That's were you're wrong. First, the "Great War to end all Wars". Some guy named Archduke Fernidand (sp?) who was the King of Austria got assassinated by pistol by some crazy Muslim Serbia guy.

1.I thought he was an anarchist but I could be mistaken.

Quote :

That's what started the entire war. Germany merely came to aid their ally, which was Austria back then. And the Russians aided the Serbs...after that, hell on Earth was offically unleashed.

Not quite, Austria-Hungary was about to invade Serbia to as punishment but Russia declared a general mobilization of its troops in order to threaten Austria-Hungary with military action if they were to invade. Germany, being the major ally of Austria-Hungary used this as an excuse to start invading the countries around it; Britain was brought into the war when Germany invaded France because Russia mobilized its troops. It was largely Germany's fault WW1 was inevitable with the Victorian deterrent plan.

Quote :

As for WW2, Imperial Japan started all of it. They invaded Manchuria in 1937, violating a "peace pact" they "argeed" under China. The Japs just merely wanted moar resources for their country (not to mention THEY WERE IMPERIALIST ) and they sure as hell did a FINE job tearing up half the world before being stopped by the US.

The war began with Japan but it was isolated and was not a part of WW2 until Germany started the war in Europe.

1. he was the crown prince.
2. france was an ally of russi and britan was an ally of belgum.
general mobalysation means war just not now germany thouhght it could take france out in 2weeks by advancying trough belgum wich brought britan into the war.
just to mention it the russians took an avreg of 2 weeks to assembel so the germans got way into russia at the time.

WWI is not coused by germany but maynly russia and WW2 was coused by britan ad france how blew the german econamy and angerd the pepole ther.

Its hard to say exactly which imperialist power was the most responsible but it was caused by imperialism and the ruling calsses of Europe and later those of North America and Oceania.

ye in WWI ther was no bad guies and good once.