| My view on socialism and communism | |
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 36 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: My view on socialism and communism Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| I think communism is better than socialism, but I am a socialist, because there cannot be communism before socialism is in every country.
I think everything is possible in the future, even communism, which I believe is impossible right will definitely come. The only question is if it will be in 100, 200, 500 or 1000 years. I believe it will come long time after I will be dead.
Communism is possible on a small scale even now. I live in a commune with my brother, we share about four fifths of all our property. Only things of low value, are in private property, everything valuable belongs to both of us and we share our income equally.
I think all key industries must be in state control to guarantee a decent living standard for ALL people: education, health care, construction, energy, water, transport, mail, security, firefighting, social services, oil, steel, coal, and other extraction industries
Other industries like automobile industry, textiles, etc. should be held with 51% shares by the state and it should be regulated so that all workers get decent wages, social insurance and safe jobs.
I think the government should tax rich as high as 50%, graduates should pay maybe 35% and regular workers around 20% tax.
All unemployed should be given a job and all homeless should be given a home.
REFORMATION OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACIES
I believe social democracies should not be changed by violent revolutions, but through reforms (peaceful, slower "revolution"). Thus chaos can be prevented and people can get used to the change.
Assuming all people work 40 hours a week, I think the best paid manager/director/party member should not be paid more than 3 times that of the lowes paid worker. The society needs all of them.
That's how I see it. What is your view? | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:57 am | |
| I aggre complytly, exept most industryes should be privatly owend and away with unneeded goverment regulations. | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:50 am | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- I aggre complytly, exept most industryes should be privatly owend and away with unneeded goverment regulations.
then time for you to burn | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:01 pm | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- I aggre complytly, exept most industryes should be privatly owend and away with unneeded goverment regulations.
then time for you to burn dude be polite and use logical and informityve answers. | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 30 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:37 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- I aggre complytly, exept most industryes should be privatly owend and away with unneeded goverment regulations.
Then people will be lazy and not show up for work. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:50 am | |
| - kahnsguard wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- I aggre complytly, exept most industryes should be privatly owend and away with unneeded goverment regulations.
Then people will be lazy and not show up for work. why? if they don´t show up then they'll get fierd | |
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Kapitalist Pioneer
Posts : 42 Join date : 2008-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Germany, Kempten (Bavarian)
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:41 pm | |
| This all is well-known by someone ^^
I agreed you, but not in that way the soviet union had been achieved. Furthermore a socialism should be voluntarilly and no one should to stiff for them.
The best way to get this, is vote the social democrat. It´s the golden middle of Communism and Capitalism. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:43 pm | |
| - Kapitalist wrote:
- This all is well-known by someone ^^
I agreed you, but not in that way the soviet union had been achieved. Furthermore a socialism should be voluntarilly and no one should to stiff for them.
The best way to get this, is vote the social democrat. It´s the golden middle of Communism and Capitalism. no liberals are | |
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Kapitalist Pioneer
Posts : 42 Join date : 2008-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Germany, Kempten (Bavarian)
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:39 pm | |
| Liberalism is good but socialism is better, but I want the social democrat. With liberalism I don´t want do help, brace the econonmy for cost of the poor ones. The liberalism is a party for the middle of our society and for those are higher. The socialism will be nice but that we have seen bevor in the SU, was a dictatorship, if we don´t reach it correctly, the life would be said bevor a repreesible.
So for the best of all is the social democrat, the middle of that two meanings. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:30 pm | |
| - Kapitalist wrote:
- Liberalism is good but socialism is better, but I want the social democrat.
With liberalism I don´t want do help, brace the econonmy for cost of the poor ones. The liberalism is a party for the middle of our society and for those are higher. The socialism will be nice but that we have seen bevor in the SU, was a dictatorship, if we don´t reach it correctly, the life would be said bevor a repreesible.
So for the best of all is the social democrat, the middle of that two meanings. C= communism/capitalism s=socalism S=socalD M=middel LD-libs D=democrats C...........S..........SD.M.LD.........D..........C | |
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Renegade_Kautsky Worker of the World Republic
Posts : 363 Join date : 2008-02-16 Location : In the belly of the beast
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:39 pm | |
| social democrats are capitalists... the middle time is democratic socialism! prim communism - feduralism - lazie-fire capitalism -regulated capitalism(were at the end of it) - democratic socialism - communism | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: My view on socialism and communism Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:04 pm | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- social democrats are capitalists...
the middle time is democratic socialism!
prim communism - feduralism - lazie-fire capitalism -regulated capitalism(were at the end of it) - democratic socialism - communism who r U? you have enlightend my soul to become a communist forever! oh thank you my lord and master, jebus | |
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