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PostSubject: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:48 am

Is marriage outdated? Yes, no, maybe, why?

I think it's not outdated nor will it ever be. Personal relationships are a matter between the parties involved so it should be them to decide how to manage it.

Now, I'd say it would be relevant to get to a consensus on what we understand as "marriage".

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:05 am

Religious marriage, certainly. Legal, no. It just streamlines things, ultimately.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:28 am

No, Mariage is good.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:43 am

Religous marriage is the church giving you permission to do the nasty. So ya, same as what he sai.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:34 am

The way i see it, the only thing that ever comes from marriage is that if there is a divorce, someone gets screwed.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:14 am

Marriage serves as a structural balance for relationships.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:32 am

Marriage is the solution to Western civilisation sexual decadence.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:36 am

Yes indeed. I was gonna state other wise peoples love lives would fall in to anarchy, but that might arouse BC.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:17 am

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Yes indeed. I was gonna state other wise peoples love lives would fall in to anarchy, but that might arouse BC.

And most other Anarchists.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:20 am

Hutin wrote:
Marriage is the solution to Western civilisation sexual decadence.

I LOVE sexual decadance.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:22 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Hutin wrote:
Marriage is the solution to Western civilisation sexual decadence.

I LOVE sexual decadance.

You want a piece of me, boy ?
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:09 pm

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And most other Anarchists.

And anyone with the slightest understanding of anarchy.

I don't see anarchy being something undesirable... ah wait, people have been literally brainwashed that "anarchy" stands for lack of order and is a synonim of chaos. Well it's not.


Either way, I'd like to know, what do you people understand for "marriage"? An officialized commitment in regards to a love relationship acknowledged by society?

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:00 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
WeiWuWei wrote:

And most other Anarchists.

And anyone with the slightest understanding of anarchy.

I don't see anarchy being something undesirable... ah wait, people have been literally brainwashed that "anarchy" stands for lack of order and is a synonim of chaos. Well it's not.


Either way, I'd like to know, what do you people understand for "marriage"? An officialized commitment in regards to a love relationship acknowledged by society?

Basically, yes.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:02 pm

but by anarchy I meant lawless and chaotic.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:06 pm

Liche wrote:
but by anarchy I meant lawless and chaotic.

Chaos from lawlessness implies that laws now keep the world in order.

Fortunately for the case of the Anarchists, we know that's not true.
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:05 am

which is exactly why at first I didnt use the word anarchy Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:44 am

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Basically, yes.

Supposing that we all agree with that understanding of marriage, then the premise of marriage is that somehow social acknowedgement is relevant to the personal relationship between two (or more) individuals, that is, that somehow this personal relationship should be relevant to the interaction between the collective and the individuals composing said relationship.

Then I'd say that the usefulness of marriage is relative to the organizational and cultural frameworks of a determined community.

For example, in my economic proposal of socialism, I argue that all workers should be provided each with, for example, 50m² (~538.2ft²) of surface for housing as a minimum (obviusly in socialism this number in my proposed framework will be determined by the workers) then, if we were to acknowledge marriage a married couple would receive a 100m² flat, minimum electricity and water provision for two persons and two telephone lines. However in my framework, essentially this would apply with any kind of union.

Culturally for many the fact that the rest know there is a commitment between the two or more persons is relevant, they may simply find desirable to express how bonded to each other they are. In some cultures as many know, it is expected that society will take into account one or all of the involved parties' performance within said relationship to "judge" the parties' character, to build up some kind of reputation and in some cultures it is even expected that society does intervene in monitoring the integrity of said relationship to the extent of society excerting coercion over one of the parties if the marriage does not work as expected due to one of the parties' failure.

I personally think Marriage doesn't imply a problem for anyone and may be kept simply as a cultural element within certain cultures and which depending on the social organizational systems may or may not be useful. What is most relevant for me is that there is no coercion involved in the relationship.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:37 am

I see the nesesity of marriage only for legal purposes. However a civil union may allow that, too, but costs more since one, as I understand it, needs a lawyer.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:31 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
I see the nesesity of marriage only for legal purposes. However a civil union may allow that, too, but costs more since one, as I understand it, needs a lawyer.

In essence I think marriage and civil union would be the same thing, at least as per the understanding reached previously.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:31 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Tyrong Kojy wrote:
I see the nesesity of marriage only for legal purposes. However a civil union may allow that, too, but costs more since one, as I understand it, needs a lawyer.

In essence I think marriage and civil union would be the same thing, at least as per the understanding reached previously.

Yes, but again, a civil unioon, as I understand it, requires a lawyer. Thus, as long as mariage gives the same thing without having to pay for a lawyer, then gays should be allower tog et married. Really, the whole thing needs to be streamlined so as not to requite a lawyer.

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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:52 pm

my question is would a religious marriage count as a civil marriage?
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PostSubject: Re: Is marriage outdated?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:47 pm

Liche wrote:
my question is would a religious marriage count as a civil marriage?

It depends on the organizational structure of society. In the actual framework as far as I know in most countries it doesn't.

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