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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:16 am

Communism is a state of stagnation and eventual decline if implimented in the way of radical-marxism. Total lack of rewards or punishment for failure must lead to apathism and loss of interest in self-improvement.
In other words: Communism in every way imaginable = bad
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:29 am

Voice of Reason wrote:
Communism is a state of stagnation and eventual decline if implimented in the way of radical-marxism. Total lack of rewards or punishment for failure must lead to apathism and loss of interest in self-improvement.
In other words: Communism in every way imaginable = bad

I agree with you.
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:21 am

comiescums wrote:
Voice of Reason wrote:
Communism is a state of stagnation and eventual decline if implimented in the way of radical-marxism. Total lack of rewards or punishment for failure must lead to apathism and loss of interest in self-improvement.
In other words: Communism in every way imaginable = bad

I agree with you.
What do you know...
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:23 am

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What do you know...
Sorry for offtopic , but so does he , and say what do you know? Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:24 am

comiescums wrote:
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What do you know...
Sorry for offtopic , but so does he , and say what do you know? Twisted Evil
more than you abd i agree tha communism might be bad , but USSR wasn't COMMUNISM!!!
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:27 am

We know it was a socialistic system, this has been discussed here more than once before
I dont even remember mentioning the USSR in my first post here
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:29 am

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We know it was a socialistic system, this has been discussed here more than once before
exactly, but in someone's picture it shows someone hiiting a guy wearing a hat that depicts a hemmer and a syicle,so that person must be saying they hate socialism,too! but it wasn't you i think...
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:30 am

"communism is a system based for equality."

..when you say it like that what separates it from everything that Capitalist America represents?
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:31 am

Diogritor wrote:
"communism is a system based for equality."

..when you say it like that what separates it from everything that Capitalist America represents?
US is actually imperialsit, peoplw are not equeal some are rich and some are poor...
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:37 am

America isn't an Imperialist Nation. Not yet anyway. Why it is not is that it changes every 4 or 8 years. Under President Bush we may be but under lets say if Clinton wins the needle will tip over to almost Communism. The Thing about America is that it is neither Left or Right but is kept in the middle by the fact that everything in the Government is preaty much 50/50. Both the House and Seneat have equal Democrats and Republicans so Fascism nor True-Communism can evolve right now in America..but say it was 75/25 and had a majority president...who knows..perhaps that is how a Dictatorship could be established..
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:53 am

Without entering the discussion again, I would like to say:
From a european point of view Republikans as well as Democrats are right wing Parties. Maybe thats just my opinion but in most euro countries both party-codes would be considered right wing
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:10 am

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
"communism is a system based for equality."

..when you say it like that what separates it from everything that Capitalist America represents?
US is actually imperialsit, peoplw are not equeal some are rich and some are poor...
Naw, America is actually Folishist
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:35 am

Diogritor wrote:
America isn't an Imperialist Nation. Not yet anyway.

Yes, it is an imperialist nation. It monopolizes the conomy of economically compatible nations and militarily subjugates those whose political systems do not allow US economy to dominate that countries economy.

Diogritor wrote:
Why it is not is that it changes every 4 or 8 years. Under President Bush we may be but under lets say if Clinton wins the needle will tip over to almost Communism.

To almost communism????? What are you talking about? Both Democrats and Republicans are right wing, capitalists...


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The Thing about America is that it is neither Left or Right but is kept in the middle by the fact that everything in the Government is preaty much 50/50. Both the House and Seneat have equal Democrats and Republicans so Fascism nor True-Communism can evolve right now in America..but say it was 75/25 and had a majority president...who knows..perhaps that is how a Dictatorship could be established..

It doesn't matter how you balance Democrats and Republicans, both are right wing just democrats are a little bit more moderate.
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:35 am

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Without entering the discussion again, I would like to say:
From a european point of view Republikans as well as Democrats are right wing Parties. Maybe thats just my opinion but in most euro countries both party-codes would be considered right wing

Not only from a European point of view. From any possible political point of view.
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:01 pm

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Yes, it is an imperialist nation. It monopolizes the economy of economically compatible nations and militarily subjugates those whose political systems do not allow US economy to dominate that countries economy.
I do not say so , there are countries witch do not allow USA to dominate in those countries economy and USA do nothing about it.
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:46 pm

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I do not say so , there are countries witch do not allow USA to dominate in those countries economy and USA do nothing about it.

You should say "I wouldn't say so" Smile

USA is not the only capitalist Empire out there. Actually the famous G7 comprises all the capitalist Empires being US the largest of them.


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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:20 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
[quote="comiescums]I do not say so , there are countries witch do not allow USA to dominate in those countries economy and USA do nothing about it.

You should say "I wouldn't say so" Smile

USA is not the only capitalist Empire out there. Actually the famous G7 comprises all the capitalist Empires being US the largest of them.[/quote]you mean the G8? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:20 am

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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
comiescums wrote:
I do not say so , there are countries witch do not allow USA to dominate in those countries economy and USA do nothing about it.

You should say "I wouldn't say so" Smile

USA is not the only capitalist Empire out there. Actually the famous G7 comprises all the capitalist Empires being US the largest of them.
you mean the G8? lol!

I meant the G7 which is "economical" Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:26 am

the us tries to dominate as many econamies as they can but fail most the time.
the us is right wing to the death.
in the us it was nearly illegal to be left wing.
politics in the us are like a football match you cheer for your family and they for theyers and 50% forget or donīt care about the game.
in the us 50% go and vote in europe 89% go
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:57 am

mattabesta wrote:
the us tries to dominate as many econamies as they can but fail most the time.
the us is right wing to the death.
in the us it was nearly illegal to be left wing.
politics in the us are like a football match you cheer for your family and they for theyers and 50% forget or donīt care about the game.
in the us 50% go and vote in europe 89% go
And remember, both party's are funded by the same corperations, so no matter who you vote for, you will have similer policies
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:27 am

RedNation wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
the us tries to dominate as many econamies as they can but fail most the time.
the us is right wing to the death.
in the us it was nearly illegal to be left wing.
politics in the us are like a football match you cheer for your family and they for theyers and 50% forget or donīt care about the game.
in the us 50% go and vote in europe 89% go
And remember, both party's are funded by the same corperations, so no matter who you vote for, you will have similer policies
I gotta disagree with that. In the US policies may be very similar in the veiws of people who go to war over such manners like in Europe, but it DOES matter who gets voted in simply by how the rest of the world veiws it. I belive the WHOLE world will be better if a Democrat gets voted because our economy is one of the few that affects other nations.
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:49 am

Diogritor wrote:
RedNation wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
the us tries to dominate as many econamies as they can but fail most the time.
the us is right wing to the death.
in the us it was nearly illegal to be left wing.
politics in the us are like a football match you cheer for your family and they for theyers and 50% forget or donīt care about the game.
in the us 50% go and vote in europe 89% go
And remember, both party's are funded by the same corperations, so no matter who you vote for, you will have similer policies
I gotta disagree with that. In the US policies may be very similar in the veiws of people who go to war over such manners like in Europe, but it DOES matter who gets voted in simply by how the rest of the world veiws it. I belive the WHOLE world will be better if a Democrat gets voted because our economy is one of the few that affects other nations.
Your not geting what im saying, i never said all, i said they will have similar, and of course, each ont is goign to have to do somthign the citezens want, even if they didnt want to, because the pressure form the public is there, , and again i said similar not SAME
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PostSubject: Re: General understanding of communism   Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:19 pm

Diogritor wrote:
RedNation wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
the us tries to dominate as many econamies as they can but fail most the time.
the us is right wing to the death.
in the us it was nearly illegal to be left wing.
politics in the us are like a football match you cheer for your family and they for theyers and 50% forget or donīt care about the game.
in the us 50% go and vote in europe 89% go
And remember, both party's are funded by the same corperations, so no matter who you vote for, you will have similer policies
I gotta disagree with that. In the US policies may be very similar in the veiws of people who go to war over such manners like in Europe, but it DOES matter who gets voted in simply by how the rest of the world veiws it. I belive the WHOLE world will be better if a Democrat gets voted because our economy is one of the few that affects other nations.
the only difrenc is that the republicns ruin the econamy with war.
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