wr flag

Get it back on, this one is so big.

Its like puttin a American flag with "WE won the cold war!!" only this one is more right.

Good ol' America's kicked them damn commie's asses in the space race since then.

And relax, before you think I'm insulting. I'm just joking around. America sucks. Its true, what I said, though. Oh, and I liked the other one. It was less "blatant".

The other flag was more comfortable, in all honesty. Although yeah, kudos to Yuriy Gagarin, Sergei Korolyov, the soviet people and the soviet state.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but logic and history make me think no one ever made it to the moon so...

Either way I don't see how this is relevant... ok we got guys living outside the atmosphere, we may or may have not landed on the closest cosmic body to Earth, awesome, but we've got so many damn problems to solve here that the feat of reaching space is overshadowed by our lack of capability to solve this problems, problems taht if solved would allow for a much faster advance on all fields of science. Just my views.

Also, no one was asked on whether the flag should be changed or not

I guess a flag change for a special event is kinda cool, but like don't make it from one side as in this case"Holy shi the sovs won space race adjogsafjopgap" but like when it was 1st april the flag change to... idk, something funny. Or at St.Patricks day the flag change into green etc.

But the size needs to be the same size as the normal flag we have.

(also did you made this in paint or in flash?)

CoolKidX wrote:

I guess a flag change for a special event is kinda cool, but like don't make it from one side as in this case"Holy shi the sovs won space race adjogsafjopgap" but like when it was 1st april the flag change to... idk, something funny. Or at St.Patricks day the flag change into green etc.

I think that every flag change, if any, should be debated and decided beforehand by the community.

CoolKidX wrote:

But the size needs to be the same size as the normal flag we have.

I agree. It's far more comfortable that way.

CoolKidX wrote:

(also did you made this in paint or in flash?)

I'm sure he did it on paint.

Also CKX, you should say "did you make?"

When you use "did" and another verb that verb must be in present for "did" already denotes that the action occured in the past

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Oh, and I liked the other one. It was less "blatant".

Completely agree. And i also don't see this new one relating to a forum like this. Plus, who supports the soviet union? I mean, there was a time when it was very progressive, but that lasted for what, nine months maybe?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

CoolKidX wrote:

(also did you made this in paint or in flash?)

I'm sure he did it on paint.

Also CKX, you should say "did you make?"

When you use "did" and another verb that verb must be in present for "did" already denotes that the action occured in the past

Ah I see, thx.

Well I don't think this new one is permanent, I mean. This is just celebrating an aniversary.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Well I don't think this new one is permanent, I mean. This is just celebrating an aniversary.

I think so.

Black_Cross wrote:

Completely agree. And i also don't see this new one relating to a forum like this. Plus, who supports the soviet union? I mean, there was a time when it was very progressive, but that lasted for what, nine months maybe?

I support the USSR. I'll always be its apologist. Why? Because as shitty as its system was it was 1) *better than any other form of capitalism, 2) could have transitted into socialism far easier than nowadays capitalist systems and 3) if the previous condition had happened it could have really been a bulwark for socialist struggle in the world, it could have spearheaded a world revolution.

*Better, a subjective term, refers to my personal taste on that matter. What makes it better in my eyes? Lack of competing companies, lack of "competitive culture", the pragmatic acknowledgement of interdependency, the diminished social and economic alienation, the promotion of solidarity within the economic framework of USSR (regardless of the pragmatic contradiction this implied within the capitalist economy), it was managed in such a way that at least basic needs could be met by all, its industrial output outweighted those of all other capitalist systems in many senses and, the characteristics of this contradictory capitalism to a good extent set the conditions that could have made it easier to become socialism had the opportunity taken place.

Plus I like its cultural framework and my roots are from there me having cultural bonds with that country.

It look better in baby blu and white

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Well I don't think this new one is permanent, I mean. This is just celebrating an aniversary.

Oh, then... nevermind.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I support the USSR.

I support its people, but whenever i think of a countries name, i think of its government, which generally engenders the country's appearance (because it dictates policy).

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I'll always be its apologist. Why? Because as shitty as its system was it was 1) *better than any other form of capitalism, 2) could have transitted into socialism far easier than nowadays capitalist systems and 3) if the previous condition had happened it could have really been a bulwark for socialist struggle in the world, it could have spearheaded a world revolution.

I agree with all this, i just don't feel there's reason to compare shit to lesser shit. And i certainly hope [and i would think] you are very selective about what you're apologizing about.

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Plus I like its cultural framework and my roots are from there me having cultural bonds with that country.

Well, i'm not against the motherland, i'm against the people who are in charge, and the way that kind of social order permeates the culture and the ethics of the population (i mean, what kind of people have we become if we allow wars like in Afghanistan [for both Russia and US] or the ones that obliterated Indochina, or any other number of atrocious wars committed by statist, imperialist regimes).

please remove the flag now
and remember to add spanish republic flag tomorrow kenzu. (14 april)

do it for the lulz

Black_Cross wrote:

I support its people, but whenever i think of a countries name, i think of its government, which generally engenders the country's appearance (because it dictates policy).

Well, when I hear "USSR" I think of the hundreds of ethnic groups within the territory that expanded from where Romania ends to the shores at the Bering Strait. I think of the largest forests on earth, of the deepest lake in the world, of the Ural mountains, of the red square, the Moscow metro, the workers building massive dams, the agricultural workers, my friends that live there, my Russian language teacher, my exgf's family (which, opposite to my gf, are awesome people), I think of "Katyusha", "Korobeiniki" and "Varshavyanka".... rarely does "USSR" evoke to my mind Stalin, Khrushyov or Brezhnev...

BC wrote:

I agree with all this, i just don't feel there's reason to compare shit to lesser shit. And i certainly hope [and i would think] you are very selective about what you're apologizing about.

I'll say "free market" capitalism is like shit inside your shoe and the soviet style capitalism was like phlegm on your shoe. If I had to choose, it's definitely second choice.

And I'm selective, I think I clarified it in small font.

I'm apologist mainly of te soviet culture and the potential that system had.

Hell, seemingly some De Leonists argue that Lenin actually introduced capitalism in the USSR intentionally (or forcibly at least) so the proletariat could develop within the nearly feudal Russia and that he intended this capitalism to be controlled by the state so it could be then lead into communism and taht he chose to call "socialism" that period of state capitalism controlled by commies. That way, the underdeveloped Russia would develop into a world superpower first, its people would develop culturally and scientifically and Russia would be ripen from feudal nation into a socialist one being the whole capitalist phase controlled by revolutionaires.

Like saying "Russia will sooner or later become capitalist and has to be, let it be us socialists who make it capitalist and make this step as quick as possible instead of the bourgeoise. When it's ripe and workers are knowledgeable and skilled, awareness will be promoted by all infomation sources within our State capitalist country and socialism will be established".

In a very Russian context the whole idea makes sense if one believes that the first step for industrialization is necesarily capitalism or that socialism requires capitalism first and that Russia hardly qualified as a capitalist nation, or at least as an industrialized and developed enough one given Russia's material conditions by the time. Makes sense, doesn't mean it's right or workable.


But my whole point is that actually, if Lenin really had something like that in his mind, it could have worked and happened that way had the State been composed of socialists and not opportunists. This would drive us back to the "workability of vanguard" discussion. Either way, this possibly Leninist notion is by now outdated in most of the world since material conditions are already ripe in most of it.

BC wrote:

Well, i'm not against the motherland, i'm against the people who are in charge, and the way that kind of social order permeates the culture and the ethics of the population (i mean, what kind of people have we become if we allow wars like in Afghanistan [for both Russia and US] or the ones that obliterated Indochina, or any other number of atrocious wars committed by statist, imperialist regimes).

Well when the people doesn't oppose or supports things like wars and such is mostly due to ruling class manipulation of information and material conditons.

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Well, when I hear "USSR" I think of the hundreds of ethnic groups within the territory that expanded from where Romania ends to the shores at the Bering Strait. I think of the largest forests on earth, of the deepest lake in the world, of the Ural mountains, of the red square, the Moscow metro, the workers building massive dams, the agricultural workers, my friends that live there, my Russian language teacher, my exgf's family (which, opposite to my gf, are awesome people), I think of "Katyusha", "Korobeiniki" and "Varshavyanka".... rarely does "USSR" evoke to my mind Stalin, Khrushyov or Brezhnev...

I think of a location on a map that yet another number of our species lives. Yep.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

I think of a location on a map that yet another number of our species lives. Yep.

You don't seem like you'd like spore... wait... you actually play it, why would you even like it?!

Ahhh, the flag is sooo tinyyy!!!

By the by, Spore is an awesome game.

WeiWuWei wrote:

Ahhh, the flag is sooo tinyyy!!!

It was tinyfied because I don't know where the hell Kenzu left the big one and it didn't seem good idea to keep the Cosmonautics' Day flag a day longer.

Common the Man wrote:

By the by, Spore is an awesome game.

It could have been more awesome by 12 orders of magnitude but capitalism fucked it!

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

It was tinyfied because I don't know where the hell Kenzu left the big one and it didn't seem good idea to keep the Cosmonautics' Day flag a day longer.

Dammit, I actually bookmarked the image but I can't find it now. Sorry, brah.

Also, I have no idea what "Common the Man" means, but it has a nice ring to it.

WeiWuWei wrote:

Dammit, I actually bookmarked the image but I can't find it now. Sorry, brah.

Also, I have no idea what "Common the Man" means, but it has a nice ring to it.

Ah, it's K, maybe Kenzu will come next blue moon and change image... or we can all vote and put another image

As for Common the man, its in alusion to common things like grass

omfg wtf happen to our glorious flag?

Spore needs either some MAJOR expansions, or better yet patches, or a sequel. It has a LOT of issues.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

WeiWuWei wrote:

Dammit, I actually bookmarked the image but I can't find it now. Sorry, brah.

Also, I have no idea what "Common the Man" means, but it has a nice ring to it.

Ah, it's K, maybe Kenzu will come next blue moon and change image... or we can all vote and put another image

As for Common the man, its in alusion to common things like grass

I suggest a HUGE portrate of comrade Lenin to replace the wr flag because the wr flag is basicaly the un flag in red and yellow.

comrade110397 wrote:

I suggest a HUGE portrate of comrade Lenin to replace the wr flag because the wr flag is basicaly the un flag in red and yellow.

No. There are few Leninists here.