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PostSubject: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:26 pm

I hear horrible things about the country, many of whichj i feel is an over exaduration, but some i feel are true.
whats with its human rights
were things better under kim sung? or was it always that way?
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:30 pm

north korea is very poor and there are nbo exagirations
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:35 pm

As a Korean, I feel greatly ashamed and angered at the two "men" representing "north" Korea. And Kim Il-Sung's son, Kim Jong-il, is HARDLY his namesake.

Under Kim Il-Sung's rule, some things were better, like the food rationing system worked GREAT. Everything was industrialized very quickly. Hell, Kim Il-Sung even surpassed the South in economy at one point!

Then he dies, Kim Jong-il (that fat bastard SUNVABITCH) takes over, institutes Juche, and the infamous "Songun" policy.

Everything crashed downhill from there.

Kim Jong-il merely ignores the will of the Koreans, set only to satisify himself. He simply doesn't give a damn about the treatment of the normal population and even the army. Seen pictures of the Korean People's Army members? Testimonies? None of them are exaggerated, as matta said.

He is EXACTLY like Stalin. Devil's incarnate. Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:39 pm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJBBpGUbNE
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:44 pm

To Bolshevik Clock: Exactly my point. He even likes Daffy Duck! Koumahsubnida dongmu! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:57 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
To Bolshevik Clock: Exactly my point. He even likes Daffy Duck! Koumahsubnida dongmu! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:00 pm

BolshevikClock wrote:

lol

DOUBLELOLLOL!

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:12 pm

So how bad are we talking here? Like Khmer Rouge?

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:58 pm

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So how bad are we talking here? Like Khmer Rouge?

Perhaps even 2 times worse. Even the children know about the "reeducation camps". Parents tell them, "Be quite or the camps will get you!" to get them to sleep.

It's so sad, and nobody cares. Nobody has cared about Korea and I think nobody ever will. Sad

It breaks my heart so much... Sad Crying or Very sad

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:48 pm

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The reason we let them get away with it, is becous they kill there own people - and were sort of FINE with that.

So Simple yet so true... oh well, welcome to Capitalism * points under a Anvil* You are here
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:17 pm

kahnsguard wrote:
So how bad are we talking here? Like Khmer Rouge?
I'd say
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:16 am

Its Orwellian.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:18 am

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Its Orwellian.

Damn.

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:14 pm

Life is not as bad as portrayed by western media, nevertheless it is still very bad, and Kim Jong Il is a stalinist, and we all know what this means!

DPRK must be liberated!

PS: South Korea isn't much better on democracy either.

-A south korean soldier once said that he thinks socialism is not bad and has been accused of "agitating in support of DPRK" he was sent to jail for a few months.

-Few years ago a teacher in a university has once said that DPRK invaded South Korea, because it wanted to unite the country. The students taking his course have been interogated by the police and the teacher has been suspended from his job.

-About 5 or 10 years ago, I forgot exactly when it was, you can look it up on the internet, but it was AFTER the cold war, a group of people founded a revolutionary party in south korea and some time later they have been accused of "Trying to join the Workers Party of DPRK" and have been EXECUTED by South Korean government.

If you go to South Korea, never say anything in favor of socialism. Otherwise this might have serious consequences for you. Even if you are a foreigner.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:18 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Life is not as bad as portrayed by western media, nevertheless it is still very bad, and Kim Jong Il is a stalinist, and we all know what this means!

DPRK must be liberated!

PS: South Korea isn't much better on democracy either.

-A south korean soldier once said that he thinks socialism is not bad and has been accused of "agitating in support of DPRK" he was sent to jail for a few months.

-Few years ago a teacher in a university has once said that DPRK invaded South Korea, because it wanted to unite the country. The students taking his course have been interogated by the police and the teacher has been suspended from his job.

-About 5 or 10 years ago, I forgot exactly when it was, you can look it up on the internet, but it was AFTER the cold war, a group of people founded a revolutionary party in south korea and some time later they have been accused of "Trying to join the Workers Party of DPRK" and have been EXECUTED by South Korean government.

If you go to South Korea, never say anything in favor of socialism. Otherwise this might have serious consequences for you. Even if you are a foreigner.
Wow, sounds like Japan when you talk about China.

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:28 pm

mononokifool wrote:
Kenzu wrote:
Life is not as bad as portrayed by western media, nevertheless it is still very bad, and Kim Jong Il is a stalinist, and we all know what this means!

DPRK must be liberated!

PS: South Korea isn't much better on democracy either.

-A south korean soldier once said that he thinks socialism is not bad and has been accused of "agitating in support of DPRK" he was sent to jail for a few months.

-Few years ago a teacher in a university has once said that DPRK invaded South Korea, because it wanted to unite the country. The students taking his course have been interogated by the police and the teacher has been suspended from his job.

-About 5 or 10 years ago, I forgot exactly when it was, you can look it up on the internet, but it was AFTER the cold war, a group of people founded a revolutionary party in south korea and some time later they have been accused of "Trying to join the Workers Party of DPRK" and have been EXECUTED by South Korean government.

If you go to South Korea, never say anything in favor of socialism. Otherwise this might have serious consequences for you. Even if you are a foreigner.
Wow, sounds like Japan when you talk about China.

he's talking about s-korea.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:43 pm

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mononokifool wrote:
Kenzu wrote:
Life is not as bad as portrayed by western media, nevertheless it is still very bad, and Kim Jong Il is a stalinist, and we all know what this means!

DPRK must be liberated!

PS: South Korea isn't much better on democracy either.

-A south korean soldier once said that he thinks socialism is not bad and has been accused of "agitating in support of DPRK" he was sent to jail for a few months.

-Few years ago a teacher in a university has once said that DPRK invaded South Korea, because it wanted to unite the country. The students taking his course have been interogated by the police and the teacher has been suspended from his job.

-About 5 or 10 years ago, I forgot exactly when it was, you can look it up on the internet, but it was AFTER the cold war, a group of people founded a revolutionary party in south korea and some time later they have been accused of "Trying to join the Workers Party of DPRK" and have been EXECUTED by South Korean government.

If you go to South Korea, never say anything in favor of socialism. Otherwise this might have serious consequences for you. Even if you are a foreigner.
Wow, sounds like Japan when you talk about China.

he's talking about s-korea.
FACEPALM.Jpg I know, I was simply relating it to something a lot of people know about. If a teacher talks about the rape of Nanking the teacher gets arrested. see how its similar

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:24 pm

Kenzu wrote:


-A south korean soldier once said that he thinks socialism is not bad and has been accused of "agitating in support of DPRK" he was sent to jail for a few months.

I believe that South Korea holds the record for the longest detained political prisoner. From the 2002 Guinness world records:

"Kim Sung-myun served a lengthy 43 years and 10 months in prison in Seoul, South Korea, for supporting Communist North Korea. He was released at the age of 70 in Aug 1995, having never read a newspaper or watched television while in prison."

Things are not as bad as some claim, 20% of the population is not, for example, currently imprisoned in 'gulags', and accordin to several reasonably independent studies the no. of deaths as a result of famine is not as high as others maintain.

But the conditions of the workers in the DPRK are certainly not acceptable.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:03 pm

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As a Korean, I feel greatly ashamed and angered at the two "men" representing "north" Korea. And Kim Il-Sung's son, Kim Jong-il, is HARDLY his namesake.

Under Kim Il-Sung's rule, some things were better, like the food rationing system worked GREAT. Everything was industrialized very quickly. Hell, Kim Il-Sung even surpassed the South in economy at one point!

Then he dies, Kim Jong-il (that fat bastard SUNVABITCH) takes over, institutes Juche, and the infamous "Songun" policy.

Everything crashed downhill from there.

Kim Jong-il merely ignores the will of the Koreans, set only to satisify himself. He simply doesn't give a damn about the treatment of the normal population and even the army. Seen pictures of the Korean People's Army members? Testimonies? None of them are exaggerated, as matta said.

He is EXACTLY like Stalin. Devil's incarnate. Evil or Very Mad

He's just "Ronery, so Ronery, know but there but him ownry..damn forgot the rest of the lyrics...from Team America.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:42 pm

@ Kenzu for Koreans the Cold War is not over.

The always visible threat of NK is stressing the good Korea to sometimes overreact. Also I can imagine, that the soldier was executed during the time of dictatorship in SK. I know you like dictators, but usually they use barbaric methods to secure their power.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:22 am

Yeah..."south" Korea isn't light on their rules. It completely SUCKS ass, since the government is basically a, what "north" Korea calls, "a puppet government" under the watchdog US.

I find that to be highly true. Sad To quote a random Youtuber's comment, "Same shit, different ideology."

Even worse, the opposition Grand National Party of Korea took office last month (sometime Feburary) and those guys are the EXACT same guys who imprisoned loads of innocent people and commited the Gwangju Massarce in 1980s.

They haven't apologized for it. Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:31 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
Yeah..."south" Korea isn't light on their rules. It completely SUCKS ass, since the government is basically a, what "north" Korea calls, "a puppet government" under the watchdog US.

I find that to be highly true. Sad To quote a random Youtuber's comment, "Same shit, different ideology."

Even worse, the opposition Grand National Party of Korea took office last month (sometime Feburary) and those guys are the EXACT same guys who imprisoned loads of innocent people and commited the Gwangju Massarce in 1980s.

They haven't apologized for it. Evil or Very Mad

didn't germany apolagices for ww2 SOME TIME IN THE 60'S?

if they can apolagice for that then evrything is possebel.
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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:58 am

No, it's not possible. Japan is VERY good allies with America. Moreso than Korea. America personally doesn't CARE about victims that don't benefit them economically in some way, even if the death and rape count was over 20 million, America just doesn't give worth a DAMN.

And like some of our fellow comrades said here, if a teacher in Japan speaks about the Rape of Nanjing in some way, they are fired (indefinately) and possibly even arrested.

Most of the Japanese on the island actually DO believe Japan NEVER committed horrid war crimes against Chinese, Koreans, Dutch, Russians, etc.

They even deny "comfort women". Evil or Very Mad

And what does the American government do?

Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:37 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
No, it's not possible. Japan is VERY good allies with America. Moreso than Korea. America personally doesn't CARE about victims that don't benefit them economically in some way, even if the death and rape count was over 20 million, America just doesn't give worth a DAMN.

And like some of our fellow comrades said here, if a teacher in Japan speaks about the Rape of Nanjing in some way, they are fired (indefinately) and possibly even arrested.

Most of the Japanese on the island actually DO believe Japan NEVER committed horrid war crimes against Chinese, Koreans, Dutch, Russians, etc.

They even deny "comfort women". Evil or Very Mad

And what does the American government do?

Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.
Well you know the American Government hired the Head Doctor out of Japan. They have to keep that hush hush

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PostSubject: Re: north korea   Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:55 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
No, it's not possible. Japan is VERY good allies with America. Moreso than Korea. America personally doesn't CARE about victims that don't benefit them economically in some way, even if the death and rape count was over 20 million, America just doesn't give worth a DAMN.

And like some of our fellow comrades said here, if a teacher in Japan speaks about the Rape of Nanjing in some way, they are fired (indefinately) and possibly even arrested.

Most of the Japanese on the island actually DO believe Japan NEVER committed horrid war crimes against Chinese, Koreans, Dutch, Russians, etc.

They even deny "comfort women". Evil or Very Mad

And what does the American government do?

Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.

I know but aren't they just ashemed for theyer actions and btw.
japan=nuclear bombed prtobably killed 500,000 in just the blas tripel that number and you have total dead and dubel that you have those likelyer to get cancer.
all in all that's 4,500,000
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