Centrist

Why don't we have a Centrist group?

we have 3 centrist groups:

social democrats
green
liberal democrats

and we have also:

anarchists

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

Why don't we have a Centrist group?

very few political groups are exacly at the line but some are very close and combine the best of both.

Social-democrats are actually centrists.

Riddler wrote:

Social-democrats are actually centrists.

"social"

mattabesta wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Social-democrats are actually centrists.

"social"

Centrism means something in between socialism and capitalism.

Riddler wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Social-democrats are actually centrists.

"social"

Centrism means something in between socialism and capitalism.

not really. soc dems are left but libe dems are right. neither is communist and nither is entierly capitalist.

social democrats are centrists. they are centre-left

centre-right liberal democrats are also centrists

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist. But when Social Democrat is every one dissagrees

Not all "schools" of anarchy are centrist tho. I guess you could say anarcho-syndacism is.

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist. But when Social Democrat is every one dissagrees

Not all "schools" of anarchy are centrist tho. I guess you could say anarcho-syndacism is.

Anarcho-syndicalism is left but Anarchy itself is not actually centrist as the Left-Right spectrum does not apply. Soc Dems are usually left or center left and Lib Dems range from center-left to center right with some leftists; Green is usually center-left or center.

oligarch wrote:

Anarcho-syndicalism is left but Anarchy itself is not actually centrist as the Left-Right spectrum does not apply. Soc Dems are usually left or center left and Lib Dems range from center-left to center right with some leftists; Green is usually center-left or center.

True, but not all anarcho-syndicasts have the same views....

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist.

It's actually ultra-left, or left radical. However some Trotskyists that I've met were even more left than most anarchists.

Riddler wrote:

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist.

It's actually ultra-left, or left radical. However some Trotskyists that I've met were even more left than most anarchists.

Anarchists are not left, the spectrum does not apply to them.

oligarch wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist.

It's actually ultra-left, or left radical. However some Trotskyists that I've met were even more left than most anarchists.

Anarchists are not left, the spectrum does not apply to them.

Well, their ideology is close to the communism/socialism. They're more idealistic, because they believe in immediate abolishment of state, while communists think that this can happen after years of evolution of communism.

Riddler wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist.

It's actually ultra-left, or left radical. However some Trotskyists that I've met were even more left than most anarchists.

Anarchists are not left, the spectrum does not apply to them.

Well, their ideology is close to the communism/socialism. They're more idealistic, because they believe in immediate abolishment of state, while communists think that this can happen after years of evolution of communism.

Yes, but they don't want the state to replaced by anything.

oligarch wrote:

Riddler wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Liche wrote:

Well, I guess anarchy wins once again. Notice how no one argues that anarchy isn't centrist.

It's actually ultra-left, or left radical. However some Trotskyists that I've met were even more left than most anarchists.

Anarchists are not left, the spectrum does not apply to them.

Well, their ideology is close to the communism/socialism. They're more idealistic, because they believe in immediate abolishment of state, while communists think that this can happen after years of evolution of communism.

Yes, but they don't want the state to replaced by anything.

In the end communists don't either.

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Riddler wrote:

Anarchists are not left, the spectrum does not apply to them.

Well, their ideology is close to the communism/socialism. They're more idealistic, because they believe in immediate abolishment of state, while communists think that this can happen after years of evolution of communism.

Yes, but they don't want the state to replaced by anything.

In the end communists don't either.[/quote]

But society is supposed to be advanced to the point where it's egalitarianism can survive and thrive without the need for a state.

The truth is, most anarchists just like pissing people off.

Sadly, that is actually true in a lot occasions, its why we have a reputation for criminal behavior.

Proof of discrimination: "....references to monkeywrenching and both elves and the ELF. In the Government's Response to Daniel McGowan's Motion for Amended Judgment, the book is referenced by Kirk Engdall, United States Attorney for the District of Oregon stating that "[t]he story line of this children’s book romanticizes the criminal activities of the Earth Liberation Front and encourages children to become involved in similar criminal conduct..."

Liche wrote:

The truth is, most anarchists just like pissing people off.

Sadly, that is actually true in a lot occasions, its why we have a reputation for criminal behavior.

Proof of discrimination: "....references to monkeywrenching and both elves and the ELF. In the Government's Response to Daniel McGowan's Motion for Amended Judgment, the book is referenced by Kirk Engdall, United States Attorney for the District of Oregon stating that "[t]he story line of this children’s book romanticizes the criminal activities of the Earth Liberation Front and encourages children to become involved in similar criminal conduct..."

It's not just anarchists that get discriminated against in the US.

oligarch wrote:

It's not just anarchists that get discriminated against in the US.

Anarhists are discriminitated against just about every were.

Liche wrote:

oligarch wrote:

It's not just anarchists that get discriminated against in the US.

Anarhists are discriminitated against just about every were.

At least not here in the WR!

Anyway, and I think it was greatly your point, that is because of the predominant anarchist behaviour.

Liche wrote:

oligarch wrote:

It's not just anarchists that get discriminated against in the US.

Anarhists are discriminitated against just about every were.

Not in my town...that I know of.