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PostSubject: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 4:08 am

There was an Ignorant guy on youtube (not troll, just a dumb ass) and he said something about the American Governments "Nazi 4th Reich Socialist Fascism" and I replyed with this:

Hmm, sorry but Socialism is not Fascism.

Fascism
Sociaism Capitalism
Anarchy

their can be Fascist Socialism, and Fascist Capitalism, but Fascist Socialism is what the USSR was (but it was basically just pseudo Socialist). Where as the US is EXTREMELY capitalist and borderline Fascist.

(is it good?) (I am curious because I often find my selves in situations as this in Real Life, but I dont know what to say.)
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PostSubject: Re: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 5:38 am

Pretty sure he doesn't really care

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 5:57 am

Socialism and Fascism are mutually exclusive, therefore Socialist fascism is an oxymoron.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 4:03 pm

USSR was Stalnist that's my guess, cuz Stalin was a fucktard who was a kinda fascist in a own way tho he hated the "evil fascists".

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 11:18 pm

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USSR was Stalnist that's my guess, cuz Stalin was a fucktard who was a kinda fascist in a own way tho he hated the "evil fascists".

USSR was state-capitalist, always. Stalinism is just a form of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Fri May 01, 2009 11:21 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
USSR was Stalnist that's my guess, cuz Stalin was a fucktard who was a kinda fascist in a own way tho he hated the "evil fascists".

USSR was state-capitalist, always. Stalinism is just a form of it.

Fair enough.


Anyways, maybe the JewTube guy refers to Ze Third Way!(Bum, bum, bum!)

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 4:28 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
USSR was Stalnist that's my guess, cuz Stalin was a fucktard who was a kinda fascist in a own way tho he hated the "evil fascists".

USSR was state-capitalist, always. Stalinism is just a form of it.

Well, Fascism is State Capitalist, too... I think the only difference is that instead of one private proprietor (corporations, as it is in Fascism), Stalinist USSR had a different private proprietor (the Bolsheviks).

That, and they had different rhetoric.

You could raise the point that Stalinism is more collectivist than Fascism. But I wouldn't, because it doesn't really matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 5:44 am

Stalinism is pretty much this:

Fascism with socialist paraphernalia, more cheerful and more "social". Or as many Soviet citizens said amidst USSR's collapse "Down with Red Fascism!" many are missing now the red colour as the white one is not superior.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 5:46 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Fascism with socialist paraphernalia, more cheerful
How you mean more cheerful?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
many are missing now the red colour as the white one is not superior.
That's just a matter of opnion when your missing a color, and uhm.. who says the white one is not superior?(If any color is the superior of the rainbow forest)

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 5:49 am

CoolKidX wrote:

How you mean more cheerful?

Stalinism doesn't promote any kind of shallow hatred unlike Nazism. At rates it promotes statist internationalism and solidarity within its economic framework.

CoolKidX wrote:

That's just a matter of opnion when your missing a color, and uhm.. who says the white one is not superior?(If any color is the superior of the rainbow forest)

It was intended to be a metaphor.

Red Fascism = USSR's regime. White fascism = Nowadays Russia.

Given Russia's actual condition, lots of people miss the USSR for they provided with many "good" and missable things actual Russia doesn't.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 4:15 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Stalinism doesn't promote any kind of shallow hatred unlike Nazism. At rates it promotes statist internationalism and solidarity within its economic framework.

It promotes hate against the capitalists, or the political enemies of the state. So that's kinda hate.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
It was intended to be a metaphor.

Red Fascism = USSR's regime. White fascism = Nowadays Russia.
My bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 4:28 pm

Quote :
It promotes hate against the capitalists, or the political enemies of the state. So that's kinda hate.

ther is hate everywehre, capitalists promotes hate against communsits and socialists, and backwards

Quote :
Red Fascism = USSR's regime. White fascism = Nowadays Russia.

buuhhhh! buhhh!!

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 5:07 pm

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their is hate everywehre, capitalists promotes hate against communsits and socialists, and backwards

Explain how.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sat May 02, 2009 6:17 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
RedSoviet wrote:

their is hate everywehre, capitalists promotes hate against communsits and socialists, and backwards

Explain how.

lol that the world attitude, what is ther to be explaned? propaganda techniques maybe?that would be then: tv, newspapers, radio + the attitude that have builded up through the cold war, "you are the evil!" "No you are" = whola todays world

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sun May 03, 2009 3:55 am

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It promotes hate against the capitalists, or the political enemies of the state. So that's kinda hate.

The state is the exclusive capitalist. The state claims to emancipate the working class from the bourgeoisie. It promotes hatred not against capitalists but against "free market capitalism".

Remember that you're not a capitalist, at best an apologist of it.

CoolKidX wrote:
ther is hate everywehre, capitalists promotes hate against communsits and socialists, and backwards

Communists=socialists. And we do not promote hatred against capitalists. Just promote the destruction of that economic system. Capitalists are obviously against us because we promote eliminating their priviledges.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sun May 03, 2009 5:14 am

The fact that you're posting historical Youtube comments makes me sad, it only engulfs (Or drags deeper) a flame war on government, patriotism, and history.
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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sun May 03, 2009 8:30 am

Carmen, are you refering to flame wars on youtube? Because at least in this thread we don't have them.

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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sun May 03, 2009 7:09 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Carmen, are you refering to flame wars on youtube? Because at least in this thread we don't have them.

I am indeed referring to the flame wars. "At least in this thread" doesn't hold true for the rest of the forum. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Question   Sun May 03, 2009 8:37 pm

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I am indeed referring to the flame wars. "At least in this thread" doesn't hold true for the rest of the forum. Wink

But here or on youtube? I was refering to flame wars related to youtube comments posted. Here I have seen none to very few flame wars and I don't even remember the last one. Unless you have a different understanding of what a flame war is.

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